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calculating the carbon footprint of Hajj
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calculating the carbon footprint of Hajj
I estimate: GARGANTUAN. Presumably, Allah will take care of AGW in the minds of the indoctrinated, and anyway, what's AGW compared to an eternity in agonising pain? These morons are fast becoming an agonising pain in the neck, for me personally.

Quote:Travel and tourism is one of the largest industries in the world and is a large contributor of greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions. Religious tourism is a fast growing sector within the tourism industry. Pilgrimage to Mecca, Hajj, is one of the oldest and largest religious tourism events in the world drawing 2.79 million participants from all around the world in 2011.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...2613001431
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RE: calculating the carbon footprint of Hajj
Tourism at its core is exploitation. Modern Mecca is a theme park maintained by people who wallow in the blood dead Yemenis and 9/11 victims. I guess if I was indoctrinated too, I'd stop caring about my Shia brethren and suspend any principles that I may or may not have.

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RE: calculating the carbon footprint of Hajj
(November 3, 2018 at 12:27 pm)Editz Wrote: I estimate: GARGANTUAN. Presumably, Allah will take care of AGW in the minds of the indoctrinated, and anyway, what's AGW compared to an eternity in agonising pain? These morons are fast becoming an agonising pain in the neck, for me personally.

Quote:Travel and tourism is one of the largest industries in the world and is a large contributor of greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions. Religious tourism is a fast growing sector within the tourism industry. Pilgrimage to Mecca, Hajj, is one of the oldest and largest religious tourism events in the world drawing 2.79 million participants from all around the world in 2011.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...2613001431

Less than three million people in one year?  BFHD. That pales into insignificance alongside non- religious tourism.  The fine folks at Wikipedia inform me that 20 million people visited the Disney park in Florida in 2014.

So, should all travel for pleasure be banned, or just travel for religious purposes? And how are religious pilgrims a pain in the neck for you personally? Are they tramping through your garden on their way to Mecca or something?

Boru
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RE: calculating the carbon footprint of Hajj
(November 4, 2018 at 7:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(November 3, 2018 at 12:27 pm)Editz Wrote: I estimate: GARGANTUAN. Presumably, Allah will take care of AGW in the minds of the indoctrinated, and anyway, what's AGW compared to an eternity in agonising pain? These morons are fast becoming an agonising pain in the neck, for me personally.


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...2613001431

Less than three million people in one year?  BFHD. That pales into insignificance alongside non- religious tourism.  The fine folks at Wikipedia inform me that 20 million people visited the Disney park in Florida in 2014.

So, should all travel for pleasure be banned, or just travel for religious purposes? And how are religious pilgrims a pain in the neck for you personally? Are they tramping through your garden on their way to Mecca or something?

Boru

Yes, but were those 20 million people coming simultaneously for a single five-day period in the year? Remember, the Hajj is meant to be performed at a specific time of year (it varies because Islam uses a lunar calendar with 354 days per year, but next time is meant to start on August 10). If you do it at any other time of year, it doesn't count towards the Hajj (though a second pilgrimage at another time of year is still recommended), according to virtually every Islamic authority I could find.

Walt Disney World, by contrast, is open all year, and has been closed exactly six times since it opened in 1971, five times for hurricanes (in order, Floyd, Frances, Jeanne, Matthew, and Irma), and once on 9/11. A total of eight days over 47 years. I can't find statistics on what their busiest day ever was and even the statistics of how many people are there on New Year's Eve, which appears to be their busiest day of the year, but I highly doubt that it's in the same ballpark as the Hajj.
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RE: calculating the carbon footprint of Hajj
At least attendance at the fucking creatard ark is dwindling!
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RE: calculating the carbon footprint of Hajj
(November 4, 2018 at 7:48 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(November 4, 2018 at 7:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Less than three million people in one year?  BFHD. That pales into insignificance alongside non- religious tourism.  The fine folks at Wikipedia inform me that 20 million people visited the Disney park in Florida in 2014.

So, should all travel for pleasure be banned, or just travel for religious purposes? And how are religious pilgrims a pain in the neck for you personally? Are they tramping through your garden on their way to Mecca or something?

Boru

Yes, but were those 20 million people coming simultaneously for a single five-day period in the year? Remember, the Hajj is meant to be performed at a specific time of year (it varies because Islam uses a lunar calendar with 354 days per year, but next time is meant to start on August 10). If you do it at any other time of year, it doesn't count towards the Hajj (though a second pilgrimage at another time of year is still recommended), according to virtually every Islamic authority I could find.

Walt Disney World, by contrast, is open all year, and has been closed exactly six times since it opened in 1971, five times for hurricanes (in order, Floyd, Frances, Jeanne, Matthew, and Irma), and once on 9/11. A total of eight days over 47 years. I can't find statistics on what their busiest day ever was and even the statistics of how many people are there on New Year's Eve, which appears to be their busiest day of the year, but I highly doubt that it's in the same ballpark as the Hajj.

I can’t see that it much matters if the visits are spread out over the course of a year or all clumped up. The article mentioned a certain amount of carbon ‘per pilgrim day’. Obviously, the carbon is expended in a short period of time, but averaged over the course of a year, it is dwarfed by the hundreds of millions of people who travel for non-religious reasons.

Boru
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