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Caravans
#11
RE: Caravans
(November 4, 2018 at 5:34 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(November 4, 2018 at 3:39 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Those two things are not in contradiction
Let me guess which end that came out of....

Yeah if it's not from Fox News you don't "understand" it



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#12
RE: Caravans
You know who supported open borders?  And amnesty for undocumented people in the US? Ronald Reagan, the pants-tightener for people on the right.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#13
RE: Caravans
(November 4, 2018 at 7:02 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You know who supported open borders?  And amnesty for undocumented people in the US? Ronald Reagan, the pants-tightener for people on the right.

Boru

Ronnie was whatever the script called for.

First a ( D ) governor, then a ( R ) President..
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#14
RE: Caravans
And yet USians on the right seem to (for the most part) have adopted a WWRD mindset.  It is more than a little inconsistent to wet your collective pants over Reagan while advocating classing all potential immigrants as criminals.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#15
RE: Caravans
(November 4, 2018 at 5:34 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(November 4, 2018 at 3:39 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Those two things are not in contradiction
Let me guess which end that came out of....

You would know, wouldn't you.
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#16
RE: Caravans
(November 4, 2018 at 8:25 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(November 4, 2018 at 5:34 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Let me guess which end that came out of....

You would know, wouldn't you.

So when somebody says they need to guess, you think they' re quoting facts....

I' ll keep that in mind.


Tongue
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#17
RE: Caravans
(November 4, 2018 at 8:28 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(November 4, 2018 at 8:25 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: You would know, wouldn't you.

So when somebody says they need to guess, you think they' re quoting facts....

I' ll keep that in mind.

Did I say you were quoting facts?



U.S. militia groups head to border, stirred by Trump’s call to arms

Quote:Gun-carrying civilian groups and border vigilantes have heard a call to arms in President Trump’s warnings about threats to American security posed by caravans of Central American migrants moving through Mexico. They’re packing coolers and tents, oiling rifles and tuning up aerial drones, with plans to form caravans of their own and trail American troops to the border.

“We’ll observe and report, and offer aid in any way we can,” said Shannon McGauley, a bail bondsman in the Dallas suburbs who is president of the Texas Minutemen. McGauley said he was preparing to head for the Rio Grande in coming days.

“We’ve proved ourselves before, and we’ll prove ourselves again,” he said.

McGauley and others have been roused by the president’s call to restore order and defend the country against what Trump has called “an invasion,” as thousands of Central American migrants advance slowly through southern Mexico toward the U.S. border. Trump has insisted that “unknown Middle Easterners,” “very tough fighters,” and large numbers of violent criminals are traveling among the women, children and families heading north on foot.

The Texas Minutemen, according to McGauley, have 100 volunteers en route to the Rio Grande who want to help stop the migrants, with more likely on the way.

“I can’t put a number on it,” McGauley said. “My phone’s been ringing nonstop for the last seven days. You got other militias, and husbands and wives, people coming from Oregon, Indiana. We’ve even got two from Canada.”

Asked whether his group planned to deploy with weapons, McGauley laughed. “This is Texas, man,” he said.

And yet, the prospect of armed vigilantes showing up beside thousands of U.S. troops — along with Border Patrol agents, police officers and migrants — is considered serious enough that miliary planners have issued warnings to Army commanders.

According to military planning documents obtained by Newsweek, the military is concerned about the arrival of “unregulated militia members self-deploying to the border in alleged support” of U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

The assessment estimates that 200 militia members could show up. “They operate under the guise of citizen patrols,” the report said, while warning of “incidents of unregulated militias stealing National Guard equipment during deployments.”

The military report provided no further details about the alleged thefts.



Others in South Texas are less enthusiastic.

Lucy Kruse, 96, said immigrants often stop on her property as they walk through the bush country, sometimes breaking into a small cabin to sleep. Her family’s ranch lies amid the thorny mesquite brush, cactus and tawny dry grass 80 miles north of the border.

As the migrant caravans head north, she and other landowners in the area worry that the number of trespassers walking through their ranches will increase dramatically. But many say the militias coming to the area also pose a threat.

“I will not let militia on my land,” Kruse said. “They’re civilians stepping into a situation where the Border Patrol is supposed to be in control and make decisions. They could damage property or harm workers. I would guess they would be trigger-happy. If they shot someone, they might just say the person they shot was reaching for a gun.”
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#18
RE: Caravans
(November 4, 2018 at 1:13 am)onlinebiker Wrote: The Libertarian Party will thank you for your vote - as they are the only party which promotes open borders.

Bear in mind more people (2.7 million) were deported under the last ( D ) administration than any other in history.


Numbers don't lie.

https://www.wnyc.org/story/no-one-though...president/

And the sole factor that caused that number of deportations was that the Dems were in power?
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#19
RE: Caravans
(November 4, 2018 at 1:13 am)onlinebiker Wrote: The Libertarian Party will thank you for your vote - as they are the only party which promotes open borders.

Bear in mind more people (2.7 million) were deported under the last ( D ) administration than any other in history.


Numbers don't lie.

https://www.wnyc.org/story/no-one-though...president/

That's because despite all the rhetoric, this administration sucks at its job.
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#20
RE: Caravans
(November 4, 2018 at 10:08 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(November 4, 2018 at 1:13 am)onlinebiker Wrote: The Libertarian Party will thank you for your vote - as they are the only party which promotes open borders.

Bear in mind more people (2.7 million) were deported under the last ( D ) administration than any other in history.


Numbers don't lie.

https://www.wnyc.org/story/no-one-though...president/

And the sole factor that caused that number of deportations was that the Dems were in power?
You were in the service..

If you sign an order - it' s your ass..
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