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Is atheism a belief?
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 (February 16, 2019 at 6:29 pm)Nomad Wrote:I am certain that he does.(February 15, 2019 at 6:10 pm)Agnostico Wrote: No Christianity It takes religion to ignore those. Oh and reasoning is de facto bad, we shouldn't do it. gunderscored doesn't like it when we do that. Oh and atheism is a faith which requires more faith than faith, or something.  (February 15, 2019 at 6:10 pm)Agnostico Wrote: No Christianity I've been away for a while, but I can see that they idiocy and ignorance has not diminished with this one. So much wrong in only 2 phrases, and 4 words. People disbelieved in gods LONG before Christianity. I have a good friend, born and raised as a Hindu in India. His upbringing had zero influence from Christianity. Yet he's an atheist. Checkmate, moron. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence. (February 16, 2019 at 12:58 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Atheism predates christianity. The oldest expression of atheism on record is somewhere around 1k years older than the oldest expression of christianity on record. Simon Moon Wrote:People disbelieved in gods LONG before Christianity. Well thats exactly what I said elsewhere on this forum and you rejected it Bolga man. LoL. The reason I say "no Christianity no atheism" is because I don't think Ive ever seen an atheist attacking Hinduism or anything else. fredd bear Wrote:Atheism is not a homogeneous position. That true. So many different opinions. (February 18, 2019 at 5:21 am)Agnostico Wrote:Then you simply have not been paying attention. To reality. Sure, hinduism is superstitious nonsense. However I am not seeing an invasion of shrill hindu fundamentalists around here, unlike the christian fundies. I see no reason to address people who are not actually here. Oddly, you base your life on someone who doesn't exist so it comes as no surprise that you think in this weird way.(February 16, 2019 at 12:58 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Atheism predates christianity. The oldest expression of atheism on record is somewhere around 1k years older than the oldest expression of christianity on record.Simon Moon Wrote:People disbelieved in gods LONG before Christianity. (February 18, 2019 at 5:21 am)Agnostico Wrote:Contrary to christianity where opinions are verboten.fredd bear Wrote:Atheism is not a homogeneous position.  (February 18, 2019 at 5:21 am)Agnostico Wrote: The reason I say "no Christianity no atheism" is because I don't think Ive ever seen an atheist attacking Hinduism or anything else. Try paying more attention. Like maybe, Google 'atheist criticism of Hinduism'.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
RE: Is atheism a belief?
February 18, 2019 at 12:49 pm
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(February 18, 2019 at 5:21 am)Agnostico Wrote:(February 16, 2019 at 12:58 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Atheism predates christianity. The oldest expression of atheism on record is somewhere around 1k years older than the oldest expression of christianity on record.Simon Moon Wrote:People disbelieved in gods LONG before Christianity. The reason why you don't see atheists attacking Hinduism (as often), is because the vast majority of atheists on this forum live in western countries, where the majority religion is some form of Christianity. And the vast majority of theists we encounter, either here or in real life, are also Christians. Hinduism is no more or less irrational and superstitious as Christianity. If Hindus gained some real political power in the US, or other western countries, and tried to get their unsupported magic claims taught in public school science courses or tried to legislate their Hindu scriptural morality in our society (like Christians do), then you can bet I'd be just as vocal against them. Quote:That true. So many different opinions. That is because there is no atheist dogma, doctrine, leaders, holy books, or tenants. Atheism is not a world view. It is a single position on a single claim. Atheism is, in fact, a response to a claim. Theists claim gods exist, atheists are unconvinced of the arguments and 'evidence' that theists provide for their god claims. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence. 
LastPoet
 Leader of the gang of jerkoffs(tm)  Religious Views: L'Uomo verrà portato dalla sua creazione (February 18, 2019 at 5:21 am)Agnostico Wrote: The reason I say "no Christianity no atheism" is because I don't think Ive ever seen an atheist attacking Hinduism or anything else. Do you realize you are not the first moron to come here with that canard? Others already answered this one for me. Is this the most you can pull off from that rats nest that its your brain? (February 18, 2019 at 1:07 pm)LastPoet Wrote:(February 18, 2019 at 5:21 am)Agnostico Wrote: The reason I say "no Christianity no atheism" is because I don't think Ive ever seen an atheist attacking Hinduism or anything else. No he/she does not realize that. He/she thinks that somehow, his/her arguments are new and novel and unique. Back in the real world everyone else is rolling their eyes and going "Not this shit again" RE: Is atheism a belief?
February 19, 2019 at 1:16 pm
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(February 18, 2019 at 3:30 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(February 18, 2019 at 1:07 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Do you realize you are not the first moron to come here with that canard? Arguments to what. Some of yas just so used to arguing theists yas just reject everything I say. Even wen we agree. All I'm saying is that ATHEISM IS A RESPONSE/REJECTION TO A CLAIM OF GOD Yall should b in agreemet but some of yas will still cry and reject this I bet. The homogenous nature means u can never satisfy everyone (February 19, 2019 at 1:16 pm)Agnostico Wrote:(February 18, 2019 at 3:30 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: No he/she does not realize that. He/she thinks that somehow, his/her arguments are new and novel and unique. The reason why we may have a knee jerk reaction to some of the things you say, even if we agree, is because you have not proven yourself to be the most intellectually honest person we've encountered. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence. |
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