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RE: My Escatological Vision
January 28, 2011 at 4:23 pm
(January 28, 2011 at 10:27 am)dqualk Wrote: @Deistpal
That was most hateful and rude of you. You know that is offensive to me and many others.
Go fill some holy water basin with your tears. I have no interest in being "sensitive" to so-called "sacred beliefs" because no beliefs are sacred. All opinions and claims should be subject to all manner of scrutiny, criticism and yes, even ridicule.
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RE: My Escatological Vision
January 28, 2011 at 4:49 pm
(January 27, 2011 at 3:37 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: I'm committing coffee abuse today, between you and Min making me spit it out in laughter.
Such a waste of fine coffee.
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RE: My Escatological Vision
January 28, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Apparently I haven't learned how to swallow first.
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RE: My Escatological Vision
January 28, 2011 at 4:55 pm
(This post was last modified: January 28, 2011 at 5:03 pm by Minimalist.)
If you think I am touching that line...................
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But he didn't and it seems that the stories that claim he did are nothing but a pile of shit designed to con gullible fools.
But if He did would you repent and believe?
Sure. Why don't you see if you can arrange it.
I once suggested to some xtian bozo on here that they earnestly pray for their silly god to strike me dead.
I'm still here. So much for your boy answering prayers.
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RE: My Escatological Vision
January 28, 2011 at 9:28 pm
I'll pray for your soul minimalist. And if you would accept God if he appeared to you as He did to Thomas then I believe that ultimately He will appear to you at some point. I don't believe that God would allow someone to go to hell unless they essentially demanded it from God out of an intense hate for God, or hate for self, or perhaps hate for someone else who they believe did not deserve to be in heaven. Basically I believe God will do anything He can to save men short of eliminating their free will. But that is just what I believe... I may be wrong.
So I hope I will see you in heaven. lol after your very long stay in purgatory for being so mean at times...  I'm jk I hope you don't have to go to purgatory either!
Of course I'm sure my concern for you matters little as you don't believe in God anyway 
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RE: My Escatological Vision
January 28, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Quote:I'll pray for your soul minimalist. And if you would accept God if he appeared to you as He did to Thomas then I believe that ultimately He will appear to you at some point.
Don't waste your time and only a fool believes the shit written in your silly bible.
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RE: My Escatological Vision
January 29, 2011 at 4:11 am
(January 28, 2011 at 9:28 pm)dqualk Wrote: I'll pray for your soul minimalist. And if you would accept God if he appeared to you as He did to Thomas then I believe that ultimately He will appear to you at some point.
Why would you inflict insanity on someone???
(January 28, 2011 at 9:28 pm)dqualk Wrote: I don't believe that God would allow someone to go to hell unless they essentially demanded it from God out of an intense hate for God, or hate for self, or perhaps hate for someone else who they believe did not deserve to be in heaven.
That's very nice dear  ; but there is no heaven or hell for that matter.
IF there were then give me hell...much more interesting than grovelling for all eternity and acting like some drugged up junkie groupie.
(January 28, 2011 at 9:28 pm)dqualk Wrote: Basically I believe God will do anything He can to save men short of eliminating their free will. But that is just what I believe... I may be wrong.
That's very nice dear ...see above post
(January 28, 2011 at 9:28 pm)dqualk Wrote: So I hope I will see you in heaven. lol after your very long stay in purgatory for being so mean at times... I'm jk I hope you don't have to go to purgatory either!
No you wouldn't...cos the first thing he would do is bitch slap you around the universe for dragging him there.
(January 28, 2011 at 9:28 pm)dqualk Wrote: Of course I'm sure my concern for you matters little as you don't believe in God anyway
Hey Min!!! do you think he might be getting the point?? 
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RE: My Escatological Vision
January 29, 2011 at 11:34 am
Quote: IF there were then give me hell...much more interesting than grovelling for all eternity and acting like some drugged up junkie groupie.
Well heaven passes way to the new earth which is like a good party. And I'm sure it something similar but better to what we live now. Not to mention the bliss of heaven and seeing God's face.
Hell in loneliness and pain. There are no parties, there is no hanging out, its just God allowing you to be consumed with your own hate for God, your neighbor and yourself. Nothing fun or interesting.
I hope you do not go to hell either. The whole point of this thread is to explain my eschatological vision. Its not meant to be an arguement or an insult fest. You can be critical of what I say, but there is no point in being childish.
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No you wouldn't...cos the first thing he would do is bitch slap you around the universe for dragging him there.
You see, this would be the kind of person in my eschatological vision that would go to hell. Even if God dragged them into heaven they would still be hateful, so instead He allows them to consume themselves in hate.
However, I do not believe this person is being serious, I think of a truly loving God revealed Himself to this person He would repent and believe to and he would be welcomed into the gates of heaven with much celebrating. Peace
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RE: My Escatological Vision
January 29, 2011 at 2:49 pm
(January 29, 2011 at 11:34 am)dqualk Wrote: Quote: IF there were then give me hell...much more interesting than grovelling for all eternity and acting like some drugged up junkie groupie.
Well heaven passes way to the new earth which is like a good party. And I'm sure it something similar but better to what we live now. Not to mention the bliss of heaven and seeing God's face.
Ah yes the 'Carrot and Stick bribe'.....and YOU fall for this???
(January 29, 2011 at 11:34 am)dqualk Wrote: Hell in loneliness and pain. There are no parties, there is no hanging out, its just God allowing you to be consumed with your own hate for God, your neighbor and yourself. Nothing fun or interesting.
Do you live in a vacum??? I'll be DEAD and there is no knowing what is after that....but I intend to find out ...ON MY OWN SANS YOUR GODBOY
(January 29, 2011 at 11:34 am)dqualk Wrote: I hope you do not go to hell either. The whole point of this thread is to explain my eschatological vision. Its not meant to be an arguement or an insult fest. You can be critical of what I say, but there is no point in being childish.
OH? ...You come here and explain YOUR vision??? As if WE Care??? and you call US childish???
(January 29, 2011 at 11:34 am)dqualk Wrote: Quote:No you wouldn't...cos the first thing he would do is bitch slap you around the universe for dragging him there.
You see, this would be the kind of person in my eschatological vision that would go to hell. Even if God dragged them into heaven they would still be hateful, so instead He allows them to consume themselves in hate.
Are you insane??? Min is being himself...he doesn't need nor want your god-boy...are you just being pig ignorant of the man??? Do you actually READ what people post or are you just interested in pontificating???
(January 29, 2011 at 11:34 am)dqualk Wrote: However, I do not believe this person is being serious, I think of a truly loving God revealed Himself to this person He would repent and believe to and he would be welcomed into the gates of heaven with much celebrating. Peace
Believe me Min IS BEING SERIOUS AND HE WILL BITCH SLAP YOU!!
By the way ...where was your truly loving god when Haiti was flattened?? ...Hurricane Katrina??? Earthquakes in China/ Turkey??? Floods in Brazil/ Queensland Australia??? What good is your 'truly Loving god'?? Massive fail imho...mainly because he doesn't exist
Now thankfully (and luckily for you) I have spent the best of 12 hours on a site that I think you may find interesting....
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/imagine.html Will get you started
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/neighbour.html Is the reason most of us are NOT interested in your god-boy
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/fabrication.html for the whole sad kit and kaboodle of your god-boy
Quote:Yet every purported evidence for Jesus turns out to be dubious or non-existent. This includes no contemporary record of Jesus; no evidence for Nazareth in the 1st century; tampered works of non-Christian writers to insert 'evidence'; testimony of early Christians who didn't believe in a human Jesus anyway; gospels which flatly contradict each other; myriad instances of 'Jesus stories' copied from earlier legends and other cultures; and so on and so on.
We have both a motive for Christian fabrication of a myth and the evidence of centuries of myth creation. In other words, what we find "in the beginning" is the same venality and charlatanism that followed, century after century, in each becoming more vicious and ruthless.
And that's just for your god-boy...the big guy has even less evidence other than a re-make of old 'primitive' cultures and their gods and beliefs. Your church is a sham, a whore that sells itself to the highest bidder and you want US to take you seriously with your nonsense?? You dare to call us childish??? Your church has created more misery on this rock than any other (though i-slam is getting there fast) more disease and guilt and fear all in the name of control and money and power.
Now go back to your empty place of worship and grovel to your nonexistent deity of choice and hope that your empty life is filled and stop bothering us!!
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RE: My Escatological Vision
January 29, 2011 at 10:35 pm
(This post was last modified: January 29, 2011 at 10:36 pm by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
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That was most hateful and rude of you. You know that is offensive to me and many others.
I do not usually set out to deliberately offend people unless they get up my nose. I find most theists apologists on atheist forums offensive and their view dogmatic, arrogant and willfully ignorant. I tolerate them because I want to remain on this and other forums and for no other reason. My respect is earned, and may not be demanded.
Nor do I allow myself to be manipulated or censored by refraining from expressing an opinion for fear of giving offence. The one exception is my 84 year-old Catholic mother,who I DO love and respect.
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