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Infinity
#31
RE: Infinity
(January 23, 2020 at 5:19 pm)Mr Greene Wrote:
(January 22, 2020 at 7:33 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Point is that these scientific models, even if they are inaccurate, are naturalistic explanations for reality.  You can, for instance, believe that stars and planets move because there are angels or other invisible beings that are pushing them, but as such a proposition is not testable, falsifiable and leads to no predictions whatsoever, it competes with a limitless set of such hypotheticals.  Like religion, such faith-based claims are themselves drawn from an infinitet set.

Of course as Theoretical Physics they are purely mathmatical models with no testable hypothesis, so some question if they are scientific at all.
But as it stands we seem to have choice of granular spacetime, foamy spacetime or infinitely twisted spacetime.

Infinitely twisted explains so much on so many levels.......

Wink
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#32
RE: Infinity
I used to think the same thing, but come to find out, it's "Tiffany twisted."
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#33
RE: Infinity
(January 23, 2020 at 5:19 pm)Mr Greene Wrote:
(January 22, 2020 at 7:33 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Point is that these scientific models, even if they are inaccurate, are naturalistic explanations for reality.  You can, for instance, believe that stars and planets move because there are angels or other invisible beings that are pushing them, but as such a proposition is not testable, falsifiable and leads to no predictions whatsoever, it competes with a limitless set of such hypotheticals.  Like religion, such faith-based claims are themselves drawn from an infinitet set.

Of course as Theoretical Physics they are purely mathmatical models with no testable hypothesis, so some question if they are scientific at all.
But as it stands we seem to have choice of granular spacetime, foamy spacetime or infinitely twisted spacetime.

Even If a model is not testable at present, it may yield predictable measurements in the future.
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#34
RE: Infinity
A few years ago the string theorists were raving about 'M' theory, but they were claiming we'd have to throw out the standard model of physics because it didn't predict the set of particles we observe, and we're effectively living in some sort of illusion of reality with half a dozen or so spatial dimensions we can't observe.
Now 'F' theory is more popular because it does predict particles with similar properties to the ones we observe, though don't hold your breath as there are around a quadrillion solutions to the 'F' subset.
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-Esquilax

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#35
RE: Infinity
The Standard Model is like Newtonian kinematics; it will never be obsolete, ever.
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#36
RE: Infinity
"Infinity is really, really long. Especially toward the end." Woody Allen.
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