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RE: Does anyone understand Trumps base?
November 5, 2019 at 11:31 am
A lot of people care about only one thing: "Will this person lower my taxes?" So they talk themselves into all kinds of shit so long as their candidate promises to lower their taxes. You see it all the goddamn time.
Then you've got folks who are low information and only get their news from FOX News, Alex Jones, and Rush Limbaugh.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
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RE: Does anyone understand Trumps base?
November 5, 2019 at 11:33 am
(November 5, 2019 at 10:57 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Yeah, the final product is pretty much in our faces - it's our need to think differently of people (and especially people related to us, lol) that makes us balk at the obvious.
I'd say the deeper dive, the thing that takes explanation, is how white supremacist propaganda went mainstream with a bunch of people who can't all be paste eaters. We could call it the american undercurrent, always prevalent, but that doesn't explain what reinforcing set of circumstances went into making it overt.
It is true that what stands in for "real america" in the hearts of those people has been left to rot on the vine. The white grievance fantasy attaches itself to a factual decline. The fantasy is not in lesser circumstance, but in attributing it to some external cause of the racial other (or the allies of the racial other).
In other words, scapegoating. Probably exacerbated (though not caused) by that uppity darkie Obama becoming president just as the recession hit.
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RE: Does anyone understand Trumps base?
November 5, 2019 at 11:39 am
Caring about taxes is cover. "Economic anxiety". Trumps base doesn't pay taxes. His owners do, sure...but not his base.
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RE: Does anyone understand Trumps base?
November 5, 2019 at 7:07 pm
Trump is a shameless opportunist. Its no surprise really. My grandparents voted for trump after a lifetime of voting D. Ive given up on arguing with them about it.
Trumps greatest accomplishment is convincing half the country that hes "not a politician." Turns out, hes a politician in the worst way imagineable - a lying, conniving, self-serving opportunist.
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RE: Does anyone understand Trumps base?
November 5, 2019 at 7:23 pm
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They already knew that. They thought that he was their lying, conniving, self serving opportunist. Still do.
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RE: Does anyone understand Trumps base?
November 5, 2019 at 8:11 pm
Easy:
Knuckle dragging morons who are caught up in a cult of personality while completely ignoring what their personal wet dream leader is doing.
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RE: Does anyone understand Trumps base?
November 5, 2019 at 8:13 pm
They love what he's doing.
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RE: Does anyone understand Trumps base?
November 5, 2019 at 8:32 pm
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RE: Does anyone understand Trumps base?
November 5, 2019 at 9:44 pm
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The progressive demographic of this country is rife with white folks who currently are or can be easily convinced that they're being "replaced" and under siege; They just happen to like the idea of socialized healthcare, UBI, and other free shit...lol.
Plenty of folks on the left will rail against n**gerlovers SJWs just as fervently as folks on the right, and are quite content to try and lambast and ridicule those who maintain that social injustice is something to be combated (or even simply addressed) into being silent by labeling them with the slur.
"Liberal" America, is increasingly embracing the notion of replacement theory, hook line and sinker. Personally, I see no point in deluding myself into thinking it's contained to the right, when it clearly isn't--not anymore. The slightest loosening to the grip of White Supremacy has enough white folks from all walks of life clamoring to usher in "moar" White Nationalism in order to seal the breach. The principles are actually a pretty easy sell to liberals (so long as they don't have to call themselves WNs), because unlike White Supremacy, White Nationalist rhetoric can be easily be re-framed as being not a matter hating others, or racial superiority, no, not really...but as a simple matter of common prudence and survival.
Those libs would be the ones who made a big ole production out of screeching that Trump was a buffoon, a monster, and unfit to serve leading up to 2016...and then turned around and pulled the lever for that motherfucker when no one was looking.
And then lied about it.
Had those early projections/exit polls all fucked-up...Lol.
I have no doubt there are still more than enough progressives who will "suddenly and inexplicably" feel driven to vote for Trump at the last minute and give him the margins he needs to secure another term. Apparently, under a nominally diminished system of White Supremacy, equality feels like oppression to a great number of whites. So they'll vote against their interests and even cross party lines to elect a WN Prez in hopes of holding on to a privilege most of them absolutely swear they don't have, even if they loathe him and most of his policies.
Unfortunately, white voters have greater electoral power and there simply aren't enough non-racist/non-bigoted/non-frantic whites to effectively change the math, so it is what it is.
So, yeah...Looks like sensible Americans might have to have to start working a little RAHOWA into their 5-year plans.
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RE: Does anyone understand Trumps base?
November 6, 2019 at 2:35 am
(November 5, 2019 at 7:23 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: They already knew that. They thought that he was their lying, conniving, self serving opportunist. Still do.
No real reason to assume that. No evidence to support that either. Even if its true... So what?
That only means they score higher on the asshole scale than we originally thought. Yuuuuge surprise.
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