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Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
#21
RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
(March 12, 2020 at 2:24 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Awesome, I'm among the nutters!  Here's a q.  All other things being equal, what value do you place on ABV, in USD..please.

From what I’ve gleaned from my oenophile friends, wine price varies inversely with ABV, but only to a point. 

Boru
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#22
RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
I am Portuguese, 'nuff said.
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#23
RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
Ha, predate me! Boones farm is the shit!

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Personally....I prefer a dry greek red with little residual sugar and high ABV. I'm just wondering what the balance on AF is...among wine drinkers, between abv, sweetness, and cost.


-for example...say the price of two described bottles is the same

one bottle has an abv roughly equivalent to liquor, but is not sweet,is hot, and causes the cheeks to hollow.
the other has an abv roughly equivalent to beer, tastes like koolaid, is cold, and causes the cheeks to swell.

Which do you prefer?
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#24
RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
(March 12, 2020 at 1:20 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'm obsessed with wine.  I don't drink the shit - but I'd love to make money off of people who do.  I've been trying to grow grapes for a decade.  For some odd reason or four, I never end up with any grapes at the end of season.

After my chemistry course at school, I did an internship at the National Wine Research station. Suffice to say I learned alot about the product and it's making with the top winemakers here, with the plus that my dead grandpa also had vinyards and made its own wine.

What castes are you growing? What is the climate and irrigation thar?
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#25
RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
(March 12, 2020 at 2:39 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Ha, predate me!  Boones farm is the shit!  

[Image: QdMp.gif]

Personally....I prefer a dry greek red with little residual sugar and high ABV.  I'm just wondering what the balance on AF is...among wine drinkers, between abv, sweetness, and cost.


-for example...say the price of two described bottles is the same

one bottle has an abv roughly equivalent to liquor, but is not sweet,is hot, and causes the cheeks to hollow.
the other has an abv roughly equivalent to beer, tastes like koolaid, is cold, and causes the cheeks to swell.

Which do you prefer?

Hard for me to answer because I haven't had a drink in many, many years.  It was never my drug of choice.

I do not like beer in any form or fashion.  When I did drink it was mainly rum though I did enjoy some of the after dinner type liquors high in flavor and low in alcohol.  Crème de Menthe and Cointrea things like that.
  
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#26
RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
Cab Sauv. Greenhouses. My first love was obviously prison blanc as A Florida Man™ and our lovely muscadines.

When you say had - I take it the property isn't in family anymore?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#27
RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
(March 12, 2020 at 2:27 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: LOL, can't help myself.  What makes a wine cheap?  If I wanted to sell wine for the price of a packet of koolaid* - what should that wine taste like?

What are you willing to put up with?

*approx $3.50 per 750ml wholesale.
I used to pass Italian pick up trucks with one HUGE glass bottle in the back. When the wine was ready they'd buy 250 liters of it at a time. I imagine this was the daily swill, not the good stuff.
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#28
RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
(March 12, 2020 at 2:37 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I am Portuguese, 'nuff said.

And if some-one is French or Spanish or Italian - does that also count? Cool
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#29
RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
(March 12, 2020 at 2:39 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Ha, predate me!  Boones farm is the shit!  

[Image: QdMp.gif]

Personally....I prefer a dry greek red with little residual sugar and high ABV.  I'm just wondering what the balance on AF is...among wine drinkers, between abv, sweetness, and cost.


-for example...say the price of two described bottles is the same

one bottle has an abv roughly equivalent to liquor, but is not sweet,is hot, and causes the cheeks to hollow.
the other has an abv roughly equivalent to beer, tastes like koolaid, is cold, and causes the cheeks to swell.

Which do you prefer?

Whichever one tastes the most like melted popsicles.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#30
RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
(March 12, 2020 at 2:54 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Cab Sauv.  Greenhouses.  My first love was obviously prison blanc as A Florida Man™ and our lovely muscadines.

When you say had - I take it the property isn't in family anymore?

When grandpa died, inheritance of that terrain went to my cousin, my aunt was already dead. They sold it. It had two native castes that work well, "tinta miuda" and national tauriga. Damn...

It didn't need any greenhouse....
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