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A.S.K. your way to proof.
RE: A.S.K. your way to proof.

(April 1, 2020 at 8:09 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: So a bunch of unhinged nonsense

stooped-er translator: me no smart, me no not how to ask question, so me make fun of, or other wise people think me stooped.

Nah it's i am smart and more importantly have a highly tuned bullshit detector, And i make fun of you because you make it too easy with the bull you spew . Might wanna get that translator fixed  Hilarious , And you not wise your not even foolish you would more sense to be foolish .

Quote:don't need to... falsifiability demonstrable claims are reserved for science projects. God is not a science project. 

Epistemology of convenience 


Quote:the study of God has it's own set of balances and standard that have to be met.

The study of nonesense isn't a standard 


Quote: As no one can summon God or make him appear on demand. 

No one can summon pennywise either for he same reason 


Quote:However God himself has promised to respond to those who meet him on his terms.

Lol 



Quote: This can be actively proven in the fact that only 4% of the world's population think as you do.

Argument ad populum no matter how many or few believe somhing proves nothing let alone people have god responding 

Quote: At some level across the world and generations people have reached out and someone or something has reached back on some level.
Nope for generation people have believed for dumb reasons this has occurred

Quote:higher=elitist/Atheist only or christians on the fence standards. yes.
Nah real actual standards that matter 


Quote:free thinking, independant unpopular thought, 1st amendment modeled standards. ah, no.
Nah more like a rejection of nutter standards 

Quote:here is the unwritten rule that separates the two..
I-enst, Order tou bee a meme-ber of zist vebsiten! Ich, moost sink unt sprecken to zee ath-ziest, haas an ath-ziest! Nine, ut-zide sprecken vill bee toll-irated!
Nah it's in order to be a member sign up .If you say stupid shit or do stupid shit expect a short stay .

Quote:Indoctrinated.

So yeah if you are taught  good standards of evidence, the correct application of skepticism, critical thinking, and logic, will always exclude God you might be right. however if one approaches the subject with a truly open mind then that person is a candidate to experience God for themselves, as nothing I am sharing is limited to me or some elite ruling class. God is accessible to everyone on a one on one level.
Too bad this isn't the case 

Quote:Only the indoctrinated are hard wired to refuse to listen to anything because it does not fit their pre programmed path of acceptability. they can and will never be humble enough even inwardly to even start the process of approaching God.
Too bad this isn't the case

Quote:translation: you were taught how to question in a way the bible was not designed to give straight answers. Thought God would personally fill in the blanks. he didn't your house of faith fell when the wind and rain hit it.

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I do not exclude a god or gods. I am completely open to being convinced that a god exists. I mean that sincerely.
then watch the video and meet him on his terms. He is not coming to you... or even if he has, your understanding/prejudice of God (how God is to approach you) will not allow you to identify him as such. Could you identify God if he were a member here? If he started speaking to you as a common person could you pick him out?
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I'll bet I am more open to being convinced that a god or gods exists, than you are of being convinced that a god other than Yahweh/Jesus exists.
brother if you could only stand in my shoes, and honestly experienced all I have you would know why I know what I know.
Translation 

1. You didn't come to my conclusion so you faithed wrong. Because i have to be right 

2. It's your fault my religion has no evidence or any reason to follow these steps 

3.I'm right because i say so

Quote:which is why I point out all the time this is not a matter of salvation. salvation is easy any one can obtain it. To have evidence of God one must meet God on his terms. He even said in his parable of the persistent neighbor that 'we don't have to be friends' if you A.S.K. persistently that God will give you the Holy Spirit meaning even if you are not saved. again all in luke 11.
So no real reason then
"Change was inevitable"


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Quote:no it means you simply must ask god and research who and what to look for.
No it means you must already accept his junk as legitimate before you even start despite having no reason to do so  


Quote: if you see something don't ignore it. follow that lead then the next then the next.
Translation-If you see something conclude based on nothing my religion is right 


Quote:If God seems to put on your mind  or heart to stop cleaning other men's b-holes with your mouth due to the lack of toilet paper hoarding, or whether you did this for free before just because..
Translation -If you suddenly change you mind on something for no reason conclude it's because of god for no reason  


Quote: or maybe you like to push old ladies down in the street.. you might be asked to give something up..  then maybe put a pin in that activity for a while to see what else pans out with your search.
Translation -If you suddenly change you mind on something for no reason conclude it's because of god for no reason  

Quote:Honor God honor the process/take it seriously and your patience will be rewarded.
Translation -Believe and practice my rubbish and you will become delusional enough to accept it conclusions .But you can't come to the opposite conclusion and if you did you did it wrong because it can't be wrong

Quote:2 and i was only ask to provide one. I provided 3
Which isn't compatible with your other claim .Three is't even a drop in a bucket .I certainly doesn't help your poor christian martyr narrative 



Quote:1 why doesn't God stop satan, He serves a limited purpose. it sifts and separates those who want to worship God no matter the hardship from those who wish to serve self.
In other words god is an asshole 

Quote: me not smarts enough to have personal though on the world most popular religion, so rather than me gets ass handed to me/me feel stoopeder. me mask question in make up religion i can control.
Or not and popularity counts for nothing


Quote:me now try and gig you because me hate thoughts and prays me not smart enough to think'bout thoughts and prayers even from doosh is a good thing for someone like you.
No it's not


Quote:why? Satan's world. Our bodies our physical selves belong to him. God bought our souls on the cross, not our sin filled corpses
In other words god is an asshole oh and a slave owner

Quote:and that is the argument that got most everyone to want me out of here.
No your general awfulness is 


Quote: because it said or pointed out that rape molestation is not the worst thing in the world that can happen
Yes it is among the worst things that can happen 



Quote: i even cited examples of the modern world not taking rape molestation as a reason to shut down and be a perpetual victim for life.
Because there are examples doesn't mean the person isn't a victim and there are no long term effects 



Quote: That in fact this was a white western only pov. even white people in the east/russia do not see with the same end of the world consequences white people in the west do. 
Because other white people are willing to downplay victimization isn't a merit 



Quote:Because we in the west worship self, worship the individual over all else. to force an individual beyond his want or will become the highest crimes one can commit.
No it's the fact it is among he worst crimes one can commit 


Quote:making that point (which is not up for rediscussion/google it argue with the rest of humanity im just point out the truth) was reason they wanted me gone.
Nope

Quote:faith of a mustard seed.

Do you know how cell phones work? if I gave you a box of parts could you assemble a working phone?
same for a car? I gave you a shipping container of parts could you assemble a car?
what about a jet airliner?
what about the raw materials to make your own corona vaccine?

yet somehow you can use, operate, take the vaccine ride or drive in a car talk on the phone without fear of having your soul stolen being given brain cancer, exceeding the max velocity man could travel without being ripped apart by the inertial forces of acceleration (which was about 45 mph according to the best scientific minds at the time) you can take a flu shot without worry that it will make your children retarded. Point being you can trust and use items everyday you have no idea how they work or if they have a side effect or even that you are not signing your rights and liberties away by clicking on user agreements you certainly have not read, just to play a candy smashing game.
None of this is faith nor justifies blindly believing in your nonesense 

Quote:Yet the idea of simply asking God in a silent prayer you could do while you read this is too much?
Yup because their is no reason to do so 

Quote: doing enough research on how god does and can come to you, so if and when it happens you will be able to recognise the effort and then honor it. yet you will line up for a shot of clear vaccine that could be anything from water to the very next virus itself set to go off like a time bomb...
Vaccines are not equivalent to trying to talk to the air

Quote:All God says he needs from you is enough faith to meet him on his terms. to look where he says look. IE stop demanding God do anything for you and be ready to receive what he has for you.
No reason too

Quote:again this is not about yielding to a priest going to church or anything else up front. this is ask, seek out what to expect and then repeat. again he says even if he did not know you you and he are not friends he will give you what you seek and are asking for just because of your persistence.
No reason too


Quote:however once you have it you are expected to do something with it.
So no evidence then

Quote:my stories were for me.. not you. My stories were relayed on for one reason. that is to show you that God has your own set of experiences waiting for you. Things that if you follow God like peter out of the boat will have you walking on your own watr. meaning you will know you are only here because God has given you the ablity to be here and do whatever it is you are doing. as your progress or the help he gives you are so far beyond help from anyone or any thing, that it could only come from God.
Yup and that's all it is a story 

Quote:like the old man who gave me 25K out of the blue to start my own business. he didn't know me and i did not know him. and the last time I had luch with him before he died I asked him why.. he said Someone somewhere inside him told him to do it that I was completely trust worthy and will do him a good job. This guy was an old NYC jewish goodfella type who we think was relocated. (he even said if you miss a payment let me know don't have me send a 'friend of mine' looking for you..)
Yup and that's all i is a story 




Quote:dude.. If there was undenible proof of God tomorrow, do you think science would be like oops we got it all wrong?
Yup because science wants to know what's true  


Quote: No, of course not man's pride is far to dense, rather the God of the bible would be a transdimensional being who intercepts or even implants/communicates with some kind of natural or organic tech through brain waves. Wny/ because God is the God of the known universe, so why would he then create something he would have to magically move through to accomplish anything? in fact I purpose his supernatural abilities only appear that way because back then we could not understand them. when now or maybe in the future be explained because science is simply man's catalog on how God and creation works.
Conspiracy,And trying to give all sciences credit to magic .Fringe theories .
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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Quote:Is this transdimensional alien manipulating my mind? could be, but does that exclude him from being the God of the bible just because we have our own name for him
Yes 

Quote:Because THE SHIT IS REAL!!! Only 4% of you can't figure out any of it/atheists.. the rest of the world has tapped into something. Remember God is not the only being out there
Whether it's 4% or 95% it doesn't mean the other 96% tapped into anything .Or any being at all 


Quote:this assumes the actions are not consider natural. again you are only looking for supernatural movement which makes no sense from a basic design perspective.
No it assumes one doesn't buy your fringe idea's 

Quote: put God in a box and poke him and he will react the same way. If we could do this and force God to react a certain way, he would not be God would he but apart of creation not the author of it.
So no evidence then 

Quote:no i am saying God provides instructions to meet God. you can't produce God, but you can meet him on his terms
No reason to believe that ....sorry  Wacky

Quote:people are not as stupid as you suppose. it make take a few generations to completely filter our an idea of a given God. but it usally happens shortly after the idea of a deity is no longer supported.
Yes they are 


Quote:Ad populum is not supported here because this for most people is not a blind belief or faith. in fact most have stories or instances that support and fuel what they understand to be true. ad populum is based on what people simply wish or want to be true despite any evidence.
Stories does not make it not ad populum or true 


Quote:If 96% of the world said the ocean is blue because they literally saw the ocean and it's color and 4% said it is more of a green seeing the same ocean, then the 96% becomes the control while the 4% would become the variable... the question why do they only see green.

The ocean can in fact be green ,brown ,black ,even red (depending on what were defining as the ocean) So the 4% can be right .Unfortunately for you your silly god believe has no were near the same evidence as a blue ocean which is why no one seriously denies the ocean is majority blue  .So another conflation .

Quote:This does not mean just question the questionable this also means question the foundational.
that is why I am where I am, because I've asked every question I could think of and God gave me an answer, so then I come here to ask your questions so I may learn more. Because many of you will ask questions I would never think to ask.
More tall tales 

Quote:are you even listening?
YOU ARE A.S.K. FOR DIRECT ONE ON ONE CONTACT WITH GOD!!! What other fool evidence does your little monkey mind thinks it needs?
Yes too bad he has not shown up

Quote:Want proof of God? A.S.K. GOD SHOWS UP
No reason to waste my time 

Quote:That is what I have been saying for the last 10 years!
Then you have been crowing in vain 


Quote:then i point out my A.S.K journey involved beating up christians and daring them to invoke God to stop me. just to see if he would./ if there was a God
Uh huh 


Quote:The difference between us is i had an open mind about it. you have your mind made up which is why it is not possible for you to do anything.
Accept my nonesense or it's your fault  

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"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: A.S.K. your way to proof.
You first actually need a brain.
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RE: A.S.K. your way to proof.
Quote:faith of a mustard seed.
Good then move a mountain 

Quote:Do you know how cell phones work? if I gave you a box of parts could you assemble a working phone?
same for a car? I gave you a shipping container of parts could you assemble a car?
what about a jet airliner?
what about the raw materials to make your own corona vaccine?
None of his is relevant 

FYI you can understand how something works without being able to build it  from scratch 


Quote:yet somehow you can use, operate, take the vaccine ride or drive in a car talk on the phone without fear of having your soul stolen being given brain cancer, exceeding the max velocity man could travel without being ripped apart by the inertial forces of acceleration (which was about 45 mph according to the best scientific minds at the time) you can take a flu shot without worry that it will make your children retarded. Point being you can trust and use items everyday you have no idea how they work or if they have a side effect or even that you are not signing your rights and liberties away by clicking on user agreements you certainly have not read, just to play a candy smashing game.
Yup they work and those who claiming  they work can demonstrate it without demanding we talk to the air and become brain dead cultists .As for the side effects these are studied and have been so for a long while  .So this is a absurd comparison.

Quote:Yet the idea of simply asking God in a silent prayer you could do while you read this is too much?
Yup demanding he only way your nonesense can be verified is if i waste my time talking to he air is too much


Quote: doing enough research on how god does and can come to you, so if and when it happens you will be able to recognise the effort and then honor it. yet you will line up for a shot of clear vaccine that could be anything from water to the very next virus itself set to go off like a time bomb..
Yup because one doesn't insist i talk to the air and can actually be verified the other does and cannot 

Oh and spreading anti vaccine nonsense .....nice 

   
Quote:All God says he needs from you is enough faith to meet him on his terms. to look where he says look. IE stop demanding God do anything for you and be ready to receive what he has for you.

Yup which none of he things above have in common with it 
Quote:again this is not about yielding to a priest going to church or anything else up front. this is ask, seek out what to expect and then repeat. again he says even if he did not know you you and he are not friends he will give you what you seek and are asking for just because of your persistence.
Yup which none of he things above have in common with it
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I found drick:
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(April 4, 2020 at 3:45 am)no one Wrote: I found drick:
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But the cellphone won't texts till i pray to it  Hilarious

But my car won't start till i burn incense and stop demanding it start  Worship

My vaccine won't kick in unless i honor the dead virus in it  Razz

Oh wait ......
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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(April 4, 2020 at 3:45 am)no one Wrote: I found drick:
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In a related issue thanks to some contacts in the medical field I obtained a copy of a recent head x-ray Drich had.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

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(April 3, 2020 at 3:30 pm)Drich Wrote: you seriously want me to comment on this??

I was hoping you wouldn't.
You have nothing to offer here.

Quote:retorts are but one of a 1000 different options i have in my tool box. why build a 3000 square foot mansion to keep your pigs in?
if a pig/swine needs attention don't throw your pearls/best work at him rather feed him the slop he needs.

You have no "best work" and your tool box is as empty as it always was.
Your knowledge of the topics you pretend to know about are consistent with your 4th Grade educaion.

Quote:no i do not preach. I teach and this is how i behave as i am free in Christ to be me. far freer than any of you. The God of the bible does not reward me with salvation because of how good i am or rather pretend to be, but presents salvation as a gift from God not because of my works so that i can not boast.

Nice rationalization there sport. You pull shit from your ass and post it. You couldn't teach anyone about anything,
You have constructed this fantasy as you suffer from Dunning-Krueger. Internet nuts like you are dime a dozen.

Quote:the first one is iffy.. have no idea what the second one means but there are two insults to my personage.

Your "personage" ... oh my. Snort.

Quote:I've had several jobs in the church, and the last time i asked if i could use content from here it was for a quarterly teaching position. got that job for 3 months by the end all the elders in the church were sitting in. (stuff they never heard before/couldn't find anything wrong with it.)

Sure you did dear. Sure you did. Now run out and play.

Quote:There is a reason i went from hating god and christians to being one of them and that is because ive heard experience and "seen shit that will turn you white!"

Yes dear. We understand. And there's a pink elephant in the back yard.
Have you ever thought of changing your meds ?
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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Quote:There is a reason i went from hating god and christians to being one of them and that is because ive heard experience and "seen shit that will turn you white!"
Uh huh sure Dodgy
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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