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RE: New to Atheist Forums! =D
February 17, 2011 at 11:19 pm
(February 17, 2011 at 10:36 pm)The Lord is God Wrote: I cannot describe what MY God concretely is. Trick question. The Word of God aka, The Holy Bible all that is necessary for man to know about the living God. As you would have to admit, believing in or against the existence of God is a matter of faith.
You can't coherently describe what you believe? that's never a good sign. When us atheists get to the point where we find out beliefs becoming indescribable we tend just to refrain from judgement until such time as we have sufficient reason to positively believe or disbelieve, it's the rational thing to do.
You feel so ashamed about your faith that you feel the need to smear me with it? It's not that way at all, I don't have faith that god doesn't exist I simply see no reason to believe he does. That's pretty much the antithesis of faith.
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RE: New to Atheist Forums! =D
February 18, 2011 at 4:37 am
(February 17, 2011 at 7:34 pm)theVOID Wrote: (February 17, 2011 at 7:07 pm)The Lord is God Wrote: Do you believe that a god can exist outside of your knowledge?
Absolutely, just like a particular spec of dust on a far off moon of a small rocky planet orbiting a star 20,000 lightyears away exists outside of our knowledge. Some things simply aren't contingent upon minds, their existence is independent of the ability of any sentient being to know of or believe in them.
Here's a challenge for you: Present us with a coherent and comprehensive description of your God.
So your God is a spec of dust that is 20,000 lightyears away. Faith is believing and hearing by the word of God.
All God's attributes are contained in The Holy Bible. Who He is, what He is about, what His mission is as well. With all these things about God that's how I know Him. His features that I do not know. God is love, that's how I know Him.
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RE: [split] The Lord is God thread
February 18, 2011 at 5:42 am
Do you need reading comprehension lessons? I said nothing of the kind. My response was to your question 'Do you believe that a god can exist outside of your knowledge?' and the answer was not 'a spec of dust is my god'.
Let me make it simple for you:
If God does exist I do not have knowledge of his existence, just like If a particular spec of dust on a planet 20,000 lightyears exists I do not have knowledge of that either. My knowledge does not dictate what does and does not exist, therefore it is possible for a god to exist outside of my knowledge - This DOES NOT constitute an argument for the existence of God or Imply that I worship a spec of dust...
...Understood?
And all the bible contains is the religious ravings of some primitive, uneducated, illiterate Jewish tribesmen living a few thousand years ago passing their stories down orally for generation after generation until they were recorded - they didn't know fuck all about the nature of reality so they anthropomorphised nature and viola! GOD - Oh, and the God described in the Bible often comes off as a schizophrenic psychopath, just so you know.
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RE: New to Atheist Forums! =D
February 18, 2011 at 6:43 am
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(February 18, 2011 at 4:37 am)The Lord is God Wrote: (February 17, 2011 at 7:34 pm)theVOID Wrote: (February 17, 2011 at 7:07 pm)The Lord is God Wrote: Do you believe that a god can exist outside of your knowledge?
Absolutely, just like a particular spec of dust on a far off moon of a small rocky planet orbiting a star 20,000 lightyears away exists outside of our knowledge. Some things simply aren't contingent upon minds, their existence is independent of the ability of any sentient being to know of or believe in them.
Here's a challenge for you: Present us with a coherent and comprehensive description of your God.
So your God is a spec of dust that is 20,000 lightyears away. Faith is believing and hearing by the word of God.
Listen well grasshopper..Atheism is the NON BELIEF IN ANY GOD/S
We are unable to spell it out any clearer for you. WE ARE NOT SLAVES ergo we do not worship ANYTHING!!
got it??
(February 18, 2011 at 4:37 am)The Lord is God Wrote: All God's attributes are contained in The Holy Bible.
So is Zeus, Odin, Tiamat, Lilith and sooooo many others....(in their respective "holy texts") And if you really read this godboy's attributes you would find that he is a misogynistic, murderous, pedophile with a predilection for a psychopathic socio-hatred for his creation to the point where one starts to wonder where the "love" kicks in. In short he is a hateful slave-master who in this day and age would revive the death penalty, and make the Islamic extremists look like a bunch of androgynous metrosexual party boys.
(February 18, 2011 at 4:37 am)The Lord is God Wrote: Who He is, what He is about, what His mission is as well.
see above ^^^
(February 18, 2011 at 4:37 am)The Lord is God Wrote: With all these things about God that's how I know Him. His features that I do not know. God is love, that's how I know Him.
So what you are saying is that you are a pedophilic, murderous, misogynistic psychopath??? Does your local governing body KNOW about you??
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RE: New to Atheist Forums! =D
February 18, 2011 at 7:17 am
(February 18, 2011 at 4:37 am)The Lord is God Wrote: All God's attributes are contained in The Holy Bible. Who He is, what He is about, what His mission is as well. With all these things about God that's how I know Him. His features that I do not know. God is love, that's how I know Him.
Tell me, how much of your bible have you actually read?
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RE: [split] The Lord is God thread
February 18, 2011 at 10:23 am
(February 17, 2011 at 7:16 am)The Lord is God Wrote: If God doesn't exist then why is there a forum that says there is no God? The idea of God cannot be argued if God does not exist. Thats why after 10 minutes of drawing you should have a blank piece of paper or a bunch of scribble.
So, by that logic, you must assume that vampires, zombies, werewolves, and Frankenstein must all really exist because of the fact that human beings can apparently conceive of them. Or, for that matter, The Greco-Roman and Hindu Pantheons must also exist by the same reason you gave for the description of your God. The logical conclusion of your argument is the Discordian idea that "Everything is real, even false things." And, since I see that you appear to be a King James Onlyist and in some severe need of education about what people like us tend to think of your Bible I would highly recommend you to a site called The Skeptics Annotated Bible. In it, an atheist takes your beloved King James Bible and explains, verse by verse what is wrong with it.
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RE: [split] The Lord is God thread
February 18, 2011 at 10:48 am
For a moment there I read the title as "The lord is gay"
Funny hey
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RE: New to Atheist Forums! =D
February 18, 2011 at 11:01 am
(February 18, 2011 at 4:37 am)The Lord is God Wrote: God is love, that's how I know Him.
What an absolutely meaningless platitude.
"God is love"?
Then explain how a being that is "love" could drown babies and toddlers in a massive flood that wiped out nearly every living thing on the planet.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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RE: [split] The Lord is God thread
February 18, 2011 at 3:00 pm
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(February 17, 2011 at 7:16 am)The Lord is God Wrote: I would like to say a little something. Maybe it will be boarder line asking. I would like for all you people that call yourself an atheist to get out a piece of paper and a #2 pencil. I want you to draw an animal that has no known parts, no known color Oh dear, NO KNOWN COLOR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gIi7b6JMms
Barely halfway into this little assignment/experiment of yours and you've failed miserably to appreciate simple physics. Now here's your challenge, READ THIS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum
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RE: New to Atheist Forums! =D
February 18, 2011 at 6:36 pm
(February 18, 2011 at 11:01 am)Thor Wrote: (February 18, 2011 at 4:37 am)The Lord is God Wrote: God is love, that's how I know Him.
What an absolutely meaningless platitude.
"God is love"?
Then explain how a being that is "love" could drown babies and toddlers in a massive flood that wiped out nearly every living thing on the planet.
And for that matter, how could he sentence people to Hell. It is, after all, eternal punishment solely for the crime of not kissing his ass? I mean, that's like Robespierre territory, except that he and his reign of terror could only kill those who weren't enthusiastic enough about the Revolution. They couldn't torture them forever.
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