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~~Edwardo Piet~~ · February 17, 2011 at 11:32 am

Not get what?

KichigaiNeko · (This post was last modified: February 17, 2011 at 12:09 pm by KichigaiNeko.)

(February 17, 2011 at 11:32 am)DoubtVsFaith Wrote: Not get what?

That concepts, ideas, idea constructs, theories and hypothesise can be argued ...debated??

Also Chicken soup, Needlecraft, and how well little Johann is doing at the piano....ad nauseum Facepalm

The Lord is God · February 17, 2011 at 5:50 pm

No one did the home work I see. No one got a sheet of paper and a #2 pencil and tried to draw an animal with no known PARTS, no known SHAPE, and no known COLOR. IronicAlchemist has shown a picture of what looks like either a squid with 2 big balls or spaghetti and meatballs with eyes. That goes against the homework. You are to use no known PARTS, no known SHAPE, and no known COLOR. I see color that we all know about. You all have proven that to describe or to speak about something that does not exist cannot be done.

ozgoat · February 17, 2011 at 7:07 pm

(February 17, 2011 at 5:50 pm)The Lord is God Wrote: No one did the home work I see. No one got a sheet of paper and a #2 pencil and tried to draw an animal with no known PARTS, no known SHAPE, and no known COLOR. IronicAlchemist has shown a picture of what looks like either a squid with 2 big balls or spaghetti and meatballs with eyes. That goes against the homework. You are to use no known PARTS, no known SHAPE, and no known COLOR. I see color that we all know about. You all have proven that to describe or to speak about something that does not exist cannot be done.

That's totally ridiculous!

It's quite easy to speak about something that someone else thinks exists, when it doesn't really exist.

It happens in mental institutions all the time.

The person who believes that a non-existing entity really exists gets a pat on the head and told "Never mind, dear, we know you thinks it's real, but it's just your delusion. Have another pill".

There it's discussed.

The Lord is God · February 17, 2011 at 7:07 pm

Do you believe that a god can exist outside of your knowledge?

**theVOID** · (This post was last modified: February 17, 2011 at 7:48 pm by theVOID.)

(February 17, 2011 at 7:07 pm)The Lord is God Wrote: Do you believe that a god can exist outside of your knowledge?

Absolutely, just like a particular spec of dust on a far off moon of a small rocky planet orbiting a star 20,000 lightyears away exists outside of our knowledge. Some things simply aren't contingent upon minds, their existence is independent of the ability of any sentient being to know of or believe in them.

What we don't have regarding God is a reason to believe in his existence, that is what is of interest here.

(February 17, 2011 at 5:50 pm)The Lord is God Wrote: No one did the home work I see. No one got a sheet of paper and a #2 pencil and tried to draw an animal with no known PARTS, no known SHAPE, and no known COLOR. IronicAlchemist has shown a picture of what looks like either a squid with 2 big balls or spaghetti and meatballs with eyes. That goes against the homework. You are to use no known PARTS, no known SHAPE, and no known COLOR. I see color that we all know about. You all have proven that to describe or to speak about something that does not exist cannot be done.

Woah, shockingly bad logic...

Do you think that trick question is clever? If you want us to draw something of no known colour then by definition nobody is going to see it. Besides, what was our inability to draw a conceptually impossible thing supposed to demonstrate?

Also, an inability to describe impossible entity x does not mean that we cannot talk about logically possible entities that don't exist. A 43,000 foot high Tricycle is a possible thing that does not exist and we can talk about it, describe it etc, so you have in no way demonstrated that which is possible to conceive of actually exists.

Here's a challenge for you: Present us with a coherent and comprehensive description of your God.

**Minimalist** · February 17, 2011 at 7:53 pm

Quote:God is real/Baptist (KJV)

The Lord is God · February 17, 2011 at 10:36 pm

I cannot describe what MY God concretely is. Trick question. The Word of God aka, The Holy Bible all that is necessary for man to know about the living God. As you would have to admit, believing in or against the existence of God is a matter of faith.

**Minimalist** · February 17, 2011 at 11:10 pm

There is no more evidence for your silly version of 'god' than there is for any of the other thousands of deities invented by men to scare the shit out of themselves.

Excessive "faith" is a personality disorder.

KichigaiNeko · February 17, 2011 at 11:14 pm

Perhaps we should split this discussion(?) off the intro thread???

I'd like to know why TLIG didn't start a new thread on his topic but could only hijack a new member's intro ?

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