Gay Marriage - are you for or against it and why?

[Salty Amy]

I support it, all citizens should be treated equaly. Consenting adults should do whatever they want, the government should stay out of private matters.

And I have a bunch of gay friends that have all the right to celebrate their love while spending a shitload of money like everyone else.

[reverendjeremiah]

So you expect others to agree with your view of what's normal?
It's okay, so do I.

No... dont include me in your bullshit rant about normalcy.

YOU are the one who keeps going on about what is "normal"

..and I see right through your attempt for me to "connect" to your bigotry.

I do NOT connect with your bigotry....

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So, give them "civil unions". I think those would work great for America, allowing gays to share the same legal rights, but at the same time, satisfying the people that are against gay marriage.

The first post specifically points out the topic as "no civil union talk here"

you are either FOR gay marriage or you are against it.

...and FUCK satisfying the other people.

If you HONESTLY care about those OTHER people, then perhaps you should change your beliefs...just so you can satisfy those "other" people...but wait. Its okay if it is someone else....

you're such an ass.

[Ashendant]

I don't think it's a mental abnormality, it's a hormonal abnormality.

Nope. Sorry, no evidence to support that one

There's that research with mouses that showed that heterosexuality might be related to violence hormones, removing those hormone turned the mouses mostly uncaring bisexuals.

[reverendjeremiah]

I don't think it's a mental abnormality, it's a hormonal abnormality.

Nope. Sorry, no evidence to support that one

There's that research with mouses that showed that heterosexuality might be related to violence hormones, removing those hormone turned the mouses mostly uncaring bisexuals.

Wait..so they have linked heterosexuality to violent hormones in mice?

Why am I not suprised that violence and the urge to procreate go hand in hand?

Just waiting for mehemet to speak up and complain about those violent heteros.

But no..he only accepts what he likes, and ignores the rest..like the selfish and self centered ass that he is.

[Royston]

There's that research with mouses that showed that heterosexuality might be related to violence hormones, removing those hormone turned the mouses mostly uncaring bisexuals.

Well, I'm glad you are trying to provide some evidence, but to be honest, it's not the best, is it? Heterosexuality is statistically the dominant pattern of behaviour, so the hormones that lead to heterosexual behaviour do not necessarily tell you that much about homosexuality.

There are all sorts of 'programs' to 'cure' homosexuality, but, they are mostly based on junk science: not least the one that led Alan Turing to commit suicide after he was chemically castrated in 1952 to 'cure' his homosexuality.

There have never been any reputable and repeatable studies which have demonstrated significant physiological differences between heterosexual humans and homosexual humans, hormonal or otherwise. No structural brain differences, nothing that can be called a mutation or an aberration: the 'cause' is not obvious, if indeed there is a cause.

[reverendjeremiah]

Well, I'm glad you are trying to provide some evidence, but to be honest, it's not the best, is it? Heterosexuality is statistically the dominant pattern of behaviour, so the hormones that lead to heterosexual behaviour do not necessarily tell you that much about homosexuality.

There are all sorts of 'programs' to 'cure' homosexuality, but, they are mostly based on junk science: not least the one that led Alan Turing to commit suicide after he was chemically castrated in 1952 to 'cure' his homosexuality.

There have never been any reputable and repeatable studies which have demonstrated significant physiological differences between heterosexual humans and homosexual humans, hormonal or otherwise. No structural brain differences, nothing that can be called a mutation or an aberration: the 'cause' is not obvious, if indeed there is a cause.

Well of course it is. Duh. In fact every gay person was conceived by heterosexuals sex. In other words "normal" sex creates gay people. Its true that my fellow hetero's are dominant. Its also true that my fellow whites are the dominant pattern as well. Does dominance and only dominance equal the quo?

One thing is for sure..heterosexual behavior will produce 100% of the gay people on this planet.

[kılıç_mehmet]

I don't think it's a mental abnormality, it's a hormonal abnormality.

Nope. Sorry, no evidence to support that one

There's that research with mouses that showed that heterosexuality might be related to violence hormones, removing those hormone turned the mouses mostly uncaring bisexuals.

Wait..so they have linked heterosexuality to violent hormones in mice?

Why am I not suprised that violence and the urge to procreate go hand in hand?

Just waiting for mehemet to speak up and complain about those violent heteros.

But no..he only accepts what he likes, and ignores the rest..like the selfish and self centered ass that he is.

Well, why should I complain about the violent heteros whereas gays are generally as violent(and sometimes more, due to social distress) as straight people are?
You just assume that homosexuals lack the sex hormones that straight people have. No, they do not. They have balls like us, they have testosterone like us. Some even are so hairy, bulky and tough looking, you wouldn't even assume that they were soft inside.
Like for example, trannies in Turkey are the bane of streets like Jinnah street in Ankara, on par with street kids. They beat taxi drivers, bypassers whom they beat for simply not liking his/her face, asking for money/cigarettes and even sometimes for things like your cellphone, and if you do not comply with their demands, they'll either beat you(if you're lucky), or they'll shank you(if they don't like you).

So what was it that you said about the violent heteros?

[frankiej]

You're freakin' nuts, mate

[reverendjeremiah]

I don't think it's a mental abnormality, it's a hormonal abnormality.

Nope. Sorry, no evidence to support that one

There's that research with mouses that showed that heterosexuality might be related to violence hormones, removing those hormone turned the mouses mostly uncaring bisexuals.

Wait..so they have linked heterosexuality to violent hormones in mice?

Why am I not suprised that violence and the urge to procreate go hand in hand?

Just waiting for mehemet to speak up and complain about those violent heteros.

But no..he only accepts what he likes, and ignores the rest..like the selfish and self centered ass that he is.

Well, why should I complain about the violent heteros whereas gays are generally as violent(and sometimes more, due to social distress) as straight people are?
You just assume that homosexuals lack the sex hormones that straight people have. No, they do not. They have balls like us, they have testosterone like us. Some even are so hairy, bulky and tough looking, you wouldn't even assume that they were soft inside.
Like for example, trannies in Turkey are the bane of streets like Jinnah street in Ankara, on par with street kids. They beat taxi drivers, bypassers whom they beat for simply not liking his/her face, asking for money/cigarettes and even sometimes for things like your cellphone, and if you do not comply with their demands, they'll either beat you(if you're lucky), or they'll shank you(if they don't like you).

So what was it that you said about the violent heteros?

First thing first. I am a hetero, so dont even assume I am gay. Second thing I never once said they lack "sex hormones". You are the one who said that, and then put it into my mouth. Also, being gay doesnt mean that you are "soft inside" like you have assumed as well.

there is nothing but fallacies in your post so far. Im not suprised, as you have proven again and again that you arent very bright.

Now as far as your claims of trannies in turkey, I took the liberty to do a google search on it and, not at all suprising me, the search turned up the exact OPPOSITE of what you claimed was going on.

http://www.iglhrc.org/cgi-bin/iowa/artic...ts/77.html

Gays and trannies being tortured in jail and harrased by police. Police have also burned down the homes of known transexuals several times.

The economist
http://www.economist.com/node/12564128

has alot to say about how badly the trannies and gays are being treated in turkey... assumedly by people who think like you mehmet.

So you tell me Mehmet. If the police burnt your house down, forcing you to live on the streets, and the community refused to give you jobs, and everytime you came across a cop they harrased you and would take you in custody and make you choose which instrument to be used to torture you with... then how long would it take for you to lash out at said community.

I dont expect a fair and honest answer. I expect more excuses from you to keep your hateful attitude.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Also, being gay doesnt mean that you are "soft inside" like you have assumed as well.

Wow, I guess it's you who aren't really quite bright. I used the term as a metaphor.

Second thing I never once said they lack "sex hormones".

Neither did I.

there is nothing but fallacies in your post so far.

Fallacies? You simply assume that there are any, but I bet you can't show none.

I took the liberty to do a google search on it

You obviously didn't do a good research: http://www.posta.com.tr/turkiye/HaberDet...leID=31259
http://hurarsiv.hurriyet.com.tr/goster/S...x?id=13996
http://arsiv.ntvmsnbc.com/news/8288.asp

It is I who lives here and knows what kind of thugs those trannies on the streets are. Not you.

So you tell me Mehmet. If the police burnt your house down, forcing you to live on the streets, and the community refused to give you jobs, and everytime you came across a cop they harrased you and would take you in custody and make you choose which instrument to be used to torture you with... then how long would it take for you to lash out at said community.

Not a fan of the police, since AKP fanboyism is strong within it, but trannies have already assaulted policemen a lot of times with sharp objects and maces, it's not the first time we hear about it.
And I'm unsure if the police would really care to burn someone's house.
But hey, why would anyone offer a job to a tranny? I surely wouldn't.
No one would. Like what kind of a job is such a person eligible to do?
Like if they would dress and talk like a normal person and came up to me, asking for a job, I'd hire them, but do you expect anyone to hire a tranny that talks with a man voice?

And not to mention that prostitution on the streets is forbidden in Turkey, and most trannies that are out on the streets, are out there to do that.

However, I'll add that no one really hates trannies here. In fact, people think they're hilarious, as long as they don't charge them with hand weapons.