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Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
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Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
Quote:In philosophynaturalism is the idea or belief that only natural (as opposed to supernatural or spiritual) laws and forces operate in the universe.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalism...losophy%29


Atheism describes people on RELIGION's terms (it owns most of the word, literally)....the only problem I can see with describing myself as a naturalist from here on out is that some people might think I go hang out at the beach butt naked...this could be quite witty though, thinking on, so no bad really! Thoughts?
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RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
(May 14, 2020 at 10:54 am)Editz Wrote:
Quote:In philosophynaturalism is the idea or belief that only natural (as opposed to supernatural or spiritual) laws and forces operate in the universe.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalism...losophy%29


Atheism describes people on RELIGION's terms (it owns most of the word, literally)....the only problem I can see with describing myself as a naturalist from here on out is that some people might think I go hang out at the beach butt naked...this could be quite witty though, thinking on, so no bad really! Thoughts?

What's wrong with being naked on the beach?

Just don't forget some high grade sunscreen.


I won't - again....
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RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
(May 14, 2020 at 10:54 am)Editz Wrote:
Quote:In philosophynaturalism is the idea or belief that only natural (as opposed to supernatural or spiritual) laws and forces operate in the universe.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalism...losophy%29


Atheism describes people on RELIGION's terms (it owns most of the word, literally)....the only problem I can see with describing myself as a naturalist from here on out is that some people might think I go hang out at the beach butt naked...this could be quite witty though, thinking on, so no bad really! Thoughts?

I try not to get all hung up on labels.  If pressed into an answer regarding religion my answer depends on the questioner and situation at hand.  I'm not going to jeopardize a potential employment opportunity or get into a pissing contest with someone but neither am I going to lie.

Various answers for me include:
1)I was raised Catholic (certain flavors of Christians gasp and run for the hills)
2)I am not a person of faith (for some reason that stings less than the "A" word)
3)My father's family is Catholic and my mother's side is Methodist
There are others, I play it by ear but none are untrue.

Honestly - it's no one's damn business.  

Pretty sure that the Mormons from the new temple down the street figure I worship Satan based on the Halloween display I usually set up.
Popcorn

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RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
Supernatural is not interchangeable with gods. Gods are simply one rep in the category. A person can be an atheist, and a supernaturalist.

Karma, fate, ghosts, esp, reincarnation, sympathetic and ritual magic etc etc etc etc.



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RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
Somebody cannot, however, be a theist and a naturalist, so as far as describing a position of zero-theism goes, it does the job, no?
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RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
I believe that I should keep my clothes on, I don't want to frighten anyone!!
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RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
I think that you'd be surprised. A person who believes that god in some way sense or form manifested a world that operates exclusively through natural means is a thing. Even that gods are themselves made manifest as a necessary consequence of natural means.

Rank and file believers have trouble expressing this, largely because it's conceptual utility is in direct contradiction to the specific contents of their religious beliefs.

(and I've intentionally left out spinozan gods here - which would be the literal antithesis of the claim that a person cannot be a theist and a naturalist)



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RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
(May 14, 2020 at 10:54 am)Editz Wrote:
Quote:In philosophynaturalism is the idea or belief that only natural (as opposed to supernatural or spiritual) laws and forces operate in the universe.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalism...losophy%29


Atheism describes people on RELIGION's terms (it owns most of the word, literally)....the only problem I can see with describing myself as a naturalist from here on out is that some people might think I go hang out at the beach butt naked...this could be quite witty though, thinking on, so no bad really! Thoughts?

On the other hand, if you call yourself a naturalist, you might get a free trip to Galapagos.

Boru
'A man is accepted into a church for what he believes.  He is turned out for what he knows.' - Mark Twain
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RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
(May 14, 2020 at 11:10 am)Editz Wrote: Somebody cannot, however, be a theist and a naturalist, so as far as describing a position of zero-theism goes, it does the job, no?

Yes it does the job but as you point out, when you announce you're a naturalist you then have to launch into an explanation of what a naturalist is. Why not save a step and say atheist, no explanations required.
Miserable Bastard.
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RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
(May 14, 2020 at 2:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(May 14, 2020 at 10:54 am)Editz Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalism...losophy%29


Atheism describes people on RELIGION's terms (it owns most of the word, literally)....the only problem I can see with describing myself as a naturalist from here on out is that some people might think I go hang out at the beach butt naked...this could be quite witty though, thinking on, so no bad really! Thoughts?

On the other hand, if you call yourself a naturalist, you might get a free trip to Galapagos.

Boru


And marry your cousin and then be tormented by the possible implications?
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