teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Here We Go Again
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 (June 7, 2020 at 3:42 pm)Sal Wrote: It is impossible now, but forever? I don't think so. What the fuck are you talking about. 
Bearing in mind that we may never be able to build an Alcubierre drive because it requires materials with special properties that don't exist yet (neither the materials nor the properties) which may be impossible to create.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
So we are talking about traveling to the planet same as Earth that is 3000 ly away. But believe it or not, people could travel there in their lifetime and have a lot of time to explore the planet, and even return to Earth and live couple of decades.
Because if we had a spaceship that could travel 99% speed of light, then the time on that ship would slow down, so that 1 day on that ship would be like 1 year on Earth. So it would take 3000 days for passengers on that ship to travel from Earth to that planet, which is little over 8 years. Although it would take between 1 to 2 years to accelerate and then same time to slow down. Although, when they return to Earth it would have passed 6 thousand years. But it seems to me that people living in 1950s and 1960s expected that people will be visiting nearby stars by the end of 20th century. For instance in Star Trek episode "City On the Edge of Forever" which is set in the year 1930 Kirk says: "A hundred years or so from now, I believe, a famous novelist will write a classic using that theme. ... [from] A planet circling that far left star in Orion's belt. See?" Now, of course, nobody expects people would be around other stars in 2030. Or in episode "Where No Man Has Gone Before" there is a bit of a dialogue that goes: "The Nightingale Woman, written by Phineas Tarbolde on the Canopius planet back in 1996. It's funny you picked that one, Doctor."
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
 (June 8, 2020 at 6:42 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:(June 7, 2020 at 3:42 pm)Sal Wrote: It is impossible now, but forever? I don't think so.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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