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Nietzsche in 12 minutes.
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RE: Nietzsche in 12 minutes.
(July 10, 2020 at 9:10 am)Brian37 Wrote: Words like "Religion" "Philosophy" "Politics"  and "Race" are nothing but placecards to justify  the control of resources.

You say that because you don’t understand what those words mean.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#12
RE: Nietzsche in 12 minutes.
(July 10, 2020 at 9:10 am)Brian37 Wrote: Words like "Religion" "Philosophy" "Politics"  and "Race" are nothing but placecards to justify  the control of resources.

Not the case with "science"?
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RE: Nietzsche in 12 minutes.
(July 10, 2020 at 8:51 am)Brian37 Wrote: I have long since grown to hate the word "Philosophy" as much as I hate the word "religion"

Science has consistently and repeatedly busted the idea that humans have a set cure.

People use philosophy to create ideology, which seems to work when nursed through a carefully worded hypothetical, but is a mix of success and failure in the real world.  There, the problem isn't the ideology but people who cling to one ideology over others and can't see them as tools fit for different circumstances.  In that sense, I agree with you.  It's like religion.

After two semesters of symbolic logic, I found computer programming languages very easy.  Other philosophy classes taught me how to think more critically and analytically, which advanced my ability to solve technical problems.  I'm a better electronics engineer and researcher because of philosophy.  It may not lead to many answers, but it's great for figuring out critical questions.  That's where science comes in.
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RE: Nietzsche in 12 minutes.
To even justify the use of science, you have to rely on certain philosophical positions anyway. There is no science without philosophy.

Btw, interesting note relevant to the OP, I sort of remember Nietzsche being critical of science as well? Likening it to the Christian faith or something?
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RE: Nietzsche in 12 minutes.
(July 10, 2020 at 8:51 am)Brian37 Wrote: I have long since grown to hate the word "Philosophy" as much as I hate the word "religion"

Science has consistently and repeatedly busted the idea that humans have a set cure.

This seems a little strange to me. Does it seem to you that philosophy offers a "set cure"? 

Granted, various philosophers say that we should all do one thing or the other. Is that what you mean by a "set cure"? Some kind of program for curing something that's wrong? 

Arguably it is science which attempts to offer "set cures" for various problems. If we find out, provably and objectively, what is wrong in a given case, then the "cure" will be "set." We would all like a "set cure" for certain viruses, and when it comes it will come through science. 

Unfortunately there are times (not always) when the scientists offering the "cure" are unaware of their own ideologies. What seems like a "cure" to them may take for granted various assumptions about what the desired outcome would be. 

The history of science is full of cases where the objective provable set cure for a problem (e.g. societal inequality or perceived de-evolution) turned out to be something like forced sterilization or an enforced hierarchy in society that made women or black people into lower-class citizens. 

It is philosophy which questions and challenges these assumptions, about which scientists may not be aware. We all have ideologies, if we have some notion that society should be one way rather than another. Philosophy's job is to make us aware of our assumptions about such matters, question whether we are right or not, and offer alternatives. 

Nietzsche was probably the most important modern guy in challenging our unexamined assumptions about values and goals.
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#16
RE: Nietzsche in 12 minutes.
I'm disappointed. Couldn't it have done it in nine?
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#17
RE: Nietzsche in 12 minutes.
I partly dislike him because I am not a fan of the whole "Will To Power" thing.
"Zen … does not confuse spirituality with thinking about God while one is peeling potatoes. Zen spirituality is just to peel the potatoes." - Alan Watts
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