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what is the point?
#51
RE: what is the point?
This fruitcake thinks that he's broken people. Buddy, maybe people stopped asking you questions because of the quality of your answers?
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#52
RE: what is the point?
(September 14, 2020 at 5:27 pm)brewer Wrote:
(September 14, 2020 at 3:40 pm)Drich Wrote: not cured still having white blood cell problems ass hole.. glad my on going condition can be trivialized in such a way as to not allow you to have to think or consider anything i have to say. maybe just ignore what i have to say without comment if you truly do not read or consider anything. that way i do not feel obligated to be courteous enough to acknowledge your efforts, despite you lack of shits to give to even keep my story straight..

And not AIDS, dick head. Making false claims (especially this one) makes you completely untrustworthy, and well, just unworthy.

in 1994 when you have a low t-cell count with a positive hiv test they tell you you have to take another test.. during that time they tell you to get your affairs in order.. So for 2 to 4 weeks your living as if you had aids.  because i had a skin virus that was eating me up lesions all over my neck and upper body which is attributed to people with final stages of aids. what you people don't seem to get is if your immune system is compromised by something besides the hiv virus, Everything an HIV aIDS patent is susceptible to can potentially effect the immunocompromised non hiv patient. Say i did had non hodgkin's lymphoma the prescribed treatment has to do with nuking your bone marrow which wipes out your immune system.. which is why they after treatment live in a plastic bubble till they get a transplant of bone marrow and it takes/produces your white cells again.. (which is also why there is like a 15% survival rate after 5 years) i had my marrow extracted and even though they dope you up, some people (me) can feel the extraction and it is painful. they can numb everything on the outside and give you something that makes you not care about anything, but you can still feel the pain...just don't care about it when they are not extracting. So again, the only difference between me then and an hiv aids person was i could not share the virus or infect anyone as this was a internal immune system problem.. now i live with the other extreme high t cells. which is why they thought cancer for 5 years. so like it or not me living then and upto 2019 when they explained all of this to me and cleared me of hiv and cancer, my experience and what they told me prior is all i had to go on or live with. so in the beginning I thought i had hiv aids because i showed positive on the first hiv test i ever took.. and lived that way for a month before i was cleared of hiv aids, but still had the skin leasions.. and this is what i thought till 2014 when they first suspected i had cancer. and 5 years of testing later (which also discovered an untreated burst appendix) i was cleared but still have issue with skin problems. (immune system attacking my skin) white side hating on the korean side i guess..

(September 14, 2020 at 6:13 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: People are always free to challemge my opinions.  But when they do it in a way where they take on an attitude of superiority and speak down to me, where they expect me to change my opinion while their's is written in stone, they can piss off.

The Nazis were in no way atheist, just as the white supremacists and nazi wannabes in the US, who are often the ones stirring up the protests and riots (we have multiple clips) are Christians.  They may have combined teutonic myth and mysticism into their beliefs, but at the core was good, old fashioned, biblical hate.
that's not true we have had this discussion. i even posted an internal order that forbid nazi officers from attending church.. and as the primary rule is to love God.. combining other religions into military doctrine and state rule supersedes everything a christian must believe in having only one god. that amalgamation of religion is not christianity no matter how many other parts of the religion it borrows. once you start adding idols charms and ruins, the worship of the christian god stops. which is why they broke from the church and began positive christianity. (where they took what was positive to them... and ignored everything else) as far as the neo nazis being a hate group.. these riots should put the miss conception to rest. it's not 1985 any more. the neo nazis are all but gone. antifa and blm are the only organized domestic terrorist organization with any funding or bite any more. there are few if not any right wing groups that can cause the damage antifa/blm has. other wise why when they clash it's 20 to 1? not to mention antifa and blm are godless organizations. 


Quote:Most, not all, atheists accept evolution, yes, but that's a huge difference from practicing and encouraging eugenics.
haven't we had this discussion as well? where i solve the evolution creation paradox?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ_oSjTIPRk&t=35s

Quote:I'm sure there are pages of responses I could write but, frankly, I can't be bothered.

And there isn't a continual circle jerk here.  Sometimes my hand gets tired.

Hehe

(September 14, 2020 at 6:39 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(September 14, 2020 at 4:02 pm)Drich Wrote: what are you talking about sport? my journey started in 1994ish and has progressed to 2020... what was determined in 1994 was slowly over turned in 5 years of extensive cancer/biopsy/bone marrow and dna and very extensive blood work. but you dishonest people will not hear any of it. you have dishonestly created a narrative and have to lie to each other to discredit me my life experience and life's work. 

my only sin here was being too tired from the constant blood letting and the emotional ups and downs to keep you people informed while it all happened as it was happening. after about a week of treatment i gave up the arguments and fighting, as the relentless personal attacks and ill wishing to my health while i was struggling with what i was told was a 98% certainty i had non hodgkin's lymphoma or prostrate possible bladder cancer was just too much. while i took on the normal bible topics sharing as it was happening proved too difficult,  and now on the other side i appear well which cant be resolved in a ten min discussion, may seem to you disingenuous or impossible, but it is not if you lived the details... one week after my father died i took my last sonogram for tumors and i was cleared.. said i was one of the 2% who had 'normal' t cell fluctuation. 

If it makes you feel any better i am pot marked up with scars and lesions as i am still having skin problems, similar to the ones that brought me to the doctor to begin with and their initial assessment was to order the hiv test as then my t cell count was low. now i have/had sever plaque psoriasis on my legs and infantigo on my face. I take a two, 5000.00 celebrex injections a month to try and keep it all under control.

Let's try a timeline that makes some sense.

Your journey started in 1994 and after a week you were too exhausted to argue with people here.  You registered here in 2012.

So, you were tired of arguing with people who weren't sympathetic enough to you roughly 18 years before you registered?  If I allow the five years of medical testing that would be 1999...still 13 years before you registered here.

Please enlighten us.  Were you in some sort of time warp?  Out hanging out with angels in parking lots again?

no stupid.. i started in 1994.. i started here in 2012 on day one shared my 1994 experience. and argued it for some time. with no issues. it came up minimally from 12 to 14 when it did i rehashed the same.. till someone told me about people like me who had seeming spontaneously 'healed.' which reminded me of the doctor asking if he could document and write a paper or something to that effect on my situation. and i was googling and saw that people as early as 94 presented with and the condition went away.. which is when i started noticing that same type of lesion on my legs,, but these would burst out into a quarter size wound that would crust over in white scale and never go away got them on my elbows as well. after a while went to the doctor he did a full blood test, then sent me to a urologist/hematologist.. that was in 2014.. i told him of the fluctuation in white blood cell count/semi aids diagnosis, and he did his own blood work then he busted in my room telling me i has months to live as there was a 98% chance i had cancer, and he started ordering all kinds of tests. i think i shared that up front, and someone brought up the aids thing jokingly predicting god would heal me of it like the aids thing, and then all hell broke loose. That was when i stopped defending myself. up till then i held my own and most of you understood the situation. but one or two of your more compassionate members here were pretty relentless and broke my will to defend what i was experiencing. then a year ago easter my dad died. and a week after that i was cleared.  again really not up for you vultures to 20 on one attack my life as one of you in particular for whatever reason got it in your evil mind my father was something they could use to taunt me with.. when in fact i worked with him as an agnostic/desist till the last year of his life and found god and a church to go to. I can't complain if i share something openly an a monster tries to use it as a tool to hurt me with it. but at the same time i do not have to play the game. which to most of you is the same as admitting a lie or wrong doing.. because it is 20 to 1 here my options are limited. sometime i have to give up an inch here to make it up some where else.
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#53
RE: what is the point?
Drich Wrote: even posted an internal order that forbid nazi officers from attending church..

Must have been some hoax memo

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Drich Wrote:the neo nazis are all but gone.

Yeah, look at these assholes

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#54
RE: what is the point?
Drich, there is God and He is most generous. There will be 72 virgins and rivers of booze in heaven. Mashallah. All glory to Mohhamed, peas be upon him (I'm trying to make a parody joke).
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#55
RE: what is the point?
(September 14, 2020 at 7:03 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: The Christians took their balls and went home because they couldn't handle criticism as have most of the assholes who have fled in terror because we refuse to let this forum become Kiwi Farms .

no that self delusion sport. you guys were so one sidedly nasty to people like the catholic lady for trivial to no cause at all. she was one of the easiest to get along people, she welcomed and loved everyone. what about froods? another get along guy who was very moderate in all his dealings and for the most part very respectful to you all. he had one bad day and there was no mercy despite what 10 years here? i'm sure he thought he was being ganged up on and being treated unfairly. which if you thought about it being in a 20 to 1 discussion all the time is not an unreasonable assessment.. so when you all really pour on the hate and work together and target a person. there is no reason to stay.. this aids discussion is the perfect example of that there are 5 to 6 of you all attacking on the same front. why? you don't treat someone so poorly less you want them gone... to which again i point out the circle jerk this place becomes without people to have a discussion with... just look how this one thread has blown up and people who don't normally speak are doing so. you all act like you were starving to death in lack of a topic to discuss. look at the other threads and the one liners and 1/2 ass check in comments.. now look at the passion in this thread... figured it out yet dummy? this is a symbiotic relationship. you need christians here for this to work.
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#56
RE: what is the point?
They don't need Christians here for this to work. It works fine without Christians because it is an atheist forum, not a religious debate forum. They need differing opinions, and for that they have plenty on a myriad of topics. The most productive reason for having Christians on an atheist forum, is to allow them to vent their hatred on. Do you still wonder why you feel ganged up on? It's called being in the minority and it doesn't make you a victim because you choose to be here. Since, as a Christian, I don't feel ganged up on regularly, perhaps this has nothing to do with your beliefs, but more to do with your persona?
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
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#57
RE: what is the point?
(September 14, 2020 at 7:08 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote:If it makes you feel any better i am pot marked up with scars and lesions as i am still having skin problems, similar to the ones that brought me to the doctor to begin with and their initial assessment was to order the hiv test as then my t cell count was low. now i have/had sever plaque psoriasis on my legs and infantigo on my face. I take a two, 5000.00 celebrex injections a month to try and keep it all under control.

I choose not to believe you, for the following reasons.

-People with medical conditions generally know what they’re called. There’s no such thing as ‘infantigo’.
well i dont.. because i dont general ever talk about them.
Quote:-Celebrex is a painkiller (NSAID). It isn’t used to treat skin conditions.
sorry cosentyx
(secukinumab) celebrex is not injected and it is not 5000.00 so i got the name wrong but the price i got right and how it is administered..
https://www.goodrx.com/cosentyx why? cause i have to pay/supplement and use it!!
Quote:-Celebrex is an oral medication, not an injectable.

cosentyx is, and it needs to be refrigerated.

Quote:-It isn’t clear if the ‘5000.00’ you mentioned is in reference to dosage or price. If dosage, taking 5000mg of Celebrex in one go would probably kill you. If you meant price, the average cost for 50mg Celebrex is about $5 US, which works out to 50 000mg.

You should research your lies more carefully.

Boru
just the wrong name everything else jives.

(September 14, 2020 at 8:37 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:
(September 14, 2020 at 3:25 pm)Drich Wrote: well all the good nazi's were atheist...

Citations needed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany

National Socialist attitudes towards Christianity[edit]
Nazi ideology could not accept an autonomous establishment whose legitimacy did not spring from the government. It desired the subordination of the church to the state.[32] Although the broader membership of the Nazi Party after 1933 came to include many Catholics and Protestants, aggressive anti-Church radicals like Joseph GoebbelsMartin Bormann, and Heinrich Himmler saw the Kirchenkampf campaign against the Churches as a priority concern, and anti-church and anticlerical sentiments were strong among grassroots party activists.[33]
[Image: 170px-Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-1989-0821-50...ebbels.jpg]
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The Nazi propaganda minister, 
Joseph Goebbels, among the most aggressive anti-Church Nazis, wrote that there was "an insoluble opposition between the Christian and a heroic-German world view".[33]

Hitler's Propaganda Minister, Joseph Goebbels, saw an "insoluble opposition" between the Christian and Nazi world views.[33] The Fuehrer angered the churches by appointing Alfred Rosenberg, an outspoken pagan, as official Nazi ideologist in 1934.[34] Heinrich Himmler saw the main task of his Schutzstaffel (SS) organization to be that of acting as the vanguard in overcoming Christianity and restoring a "Germanic" way of living.[35] Hitler's chosen deputy, Martin Bormann, advised Nazi officials in 1941 that "National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable."[34].... Christianity remained the dominant religion in Germany through the Nazi period, and its influence over Germans displeased the Nazi hierarchy. Evans wrote that Hitler believed that in the long run National Socialism and religion would not be able to coexist, and stressed repeatedly that Nazism was a secular ideology, founded on modern science. According to Evans: "Science, he declared, would easily destroy the last remaining vestiges of superstition." Germany could not tolerate the intervention of foreign influences such as the Pope, and "Priests, he said, were 'black bugs,' abortions in black cassocks.'"[41]

During Hitler's dictatorship, more than 6,000 clergymen, on the charge of treasonable activity, were imprisoned or executed.[42] The same measures were taken in the occupied territories; in French Lorraine, the Nazis forbade religious youth movements, parish meetings, and scout meetings. Church assets were taken, Church schools were closed, and teachers in religious institutes were dismissed. The Episcopal seminary was closed, and the SA and SS desecrated churches and religious statues and pictures. Three hundred clergy were expelled from the Lorraine region; monks and nuns were deported or forced to renounce their vows.......


Prior to the Reichstag vote for the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act]Enabling Act under which Hitler gained legislative powers with which he went on to permanently dismantle the Weimar Republic, Hitler promised the Reichstag on 23 March 1933, that he would not interfere with the rights of the churches. However, with power secured in Germany, Hitler quickly broke this promise.[53][54] Various historians have written that the goal of the Nazi Kirchenkampf (Church Struggle) entailed not only ideological struggle, but ultimately the eradication of the Churches.[12][55] However, leading Nazis varied in the importance they attached to the Church Struggle.

William Shirer wrote that "under the leadership of RosenbergBormann and Himmler, who were backed by Hitler, the Nazi regime intended to destroy Christianity in Germany, if it could, and substitute the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists."[56] During a speech on 27 October 1941, President Franklin D. Roosevelt revealed evidence of Hitler's plan to abolish all religions in Germany. FDR declared:

Quote:Your Government has in its possession another document, made in Germany by Hitler’s Government… It is a plan to abolish all existing religions—Catholic, Protestant, Mohammedan, Hindu, Buddhist, and Jewish alike. The property of all churches will be seized by the Reich and its puppets. The cross and all other symbols of religion are to be forbidden. The clergy are to be forever liquidated, silenced under penalty of the concentration camps, where even now so many fearless men are being tortured because they have placed God above Hitler.[57]
do you need me to keep going? did you note the list of 'all the best nazis?" sucks when real history shows your version to be revisionist propaganda huh?!?

(September 14, 2020 at 8:40 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(September 14, 2020 at 8:37 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: Citations needed.

"Good" Nazis?

the ones really good at being a nazi gobberles himiler ect..

(September 14, 2020 at 8:51 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote:be painted as evil men who tried to over through our constitutional government.   

How exactly does one ‘over through’ a government?

If your government is ever overthrown, it’ll be the work of sincere, devout Christians.

Boru

you undermine the family to build an army of angry youth who want change, sell them on the ide that society is broken have them find a honorable cause to protest. exploit it into riots. have a few martyred, turn protests into riots. would help if election year, have rioters take over sympathetic governement city or a few square blocks. demand that police be defunded, once police are replaced with social workers send in the 'brown coats' as hitler did which were just mobs of people who would brutally beat rob and steal, then offer a social structure too good to be true, over promise select a anti-christ i mean leader have them with the army of disaffected youth act as cannon fodder which will disable their parents/previous generation from wanting all out war, push in your senial canidate, once in office replace due to failing mental heath with anti christ.

(September 14, 2020 at 9:09 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:
Quote:well all the good nazi's were atheist...
Nope Hitler hated Atheists as they in his eyes were linked to "godless communism " which he associated with "international Jewery "

sorry sport.. looks like the reference material disagrees.
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#58
RE: what is the point?
Got the name of your condition wrong. Got the name of your medication wrong. How could I have doubted you?

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#59
RE: what is the point?
(September 15, 2020 at 11:25 am)Drich Wrote:
(September 14, 2020 at 5:27 pm)brewer Wrote: And not AIDS, dick head. Making false claims (especially this one) makes you completely untrustworthy, and well, just unworthy.

in 1994 when you have a low t-cell count with a positive hiv test they tell you you have to take another test.. during that time they tell you to get your affairs in order.. So for 2 to 4 weeks your living as if you had aids.  because i had a skin virus that was eating me up lesions all over my neck and upper body which is attributed to people with final stages of aids. what you people don't seem to get is if your immune system is compromised by something besides the hiv virus, Everything an HIV aIDS patent is susceptible to can potentially effect the immunocompromised non hiv patient. Say i did had non hodgkin's lymphoma the prescribed treatment has to do with nuking your bone marrow which wipes out your immune system.. which is why they after treatment live in a plastic bubble till they get a transplant of bone marrow and it takes/produces your white cells again.. (which is also why there is like a 15% survival rate after 5 years) i had my marrow extracted and even though they dope you up, some people (me) can feel the extraction and it is painful. they can numb everything on the outside and give you something that makes you not care about anything, but you can still feel the pain...just don't care about it when they are not extracting. So again, the only difference between me then and an hiv aids person was i could not share the virus or infect anyone as this was a internal immune system problem.. now i live with the other extreme high t cells. which is why they thought cancer for 5 years. so like it or not me living then and upto 2019 when they explained all of this to me and cleared me of hiv and cancer, my experience and what they told me prior is all i had to go on or live with. so in the beginning I thought i had hiv aids because i showed positive on the first hiv test i ever took.. and lived that way for a month before i was cleared of hiv aids, but still had the skin leasions.. and this is what i thought till 2014 when they first suspected i had cancer. and 5 years of testing later (which also discovered an untreated burst appendix) i was cleared but still have issue with skin problems. (immune system attacking my skin) white side hating on the korean side i guess..
Bullshit, why do you keep lying? It does not take that long to confirm the HIV virus that causes AIDS, the test available at least as early as 1985 (ELISA) and western blot (1987, turn around time 3 to 5 days). So years later, when you know that you never had AIDS you came here and claimed that you had AIDS.
You're full of shit. Stop making up more crap for us to wade thru. I don't consider any of it is true.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#60
RE: what is the point?
Drich Wrote:The Nazi propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, among the most aggressive anti-Church Nazis, wrote that there was "an insoluble opposition between the Christian and a heroic-German world view".

But Drich, I already posted you a photo of Goebbels saluting with cardinals.

But ok let's see some of the Goebbels' views on Christianity:

Quote:Christianity is not a religion for the masses, let alone for all. Cultivated by few and translated into deeds, it is one of the most splendid blossoms that can grow in the soul of a good man.

Christ is the genius of love and as such the most diametric antipole to Jewry, which is the incarnation of hate. … Christ was the first anti-Jewish opponent of stature. … The Jew is the lie that became flesh. He nailed Christ to the cross, and thus for the first time in history nailed the eternal truth to the cross.

The war we are fighting until victory or the bitter end is in its deepest sense a war between Christ and Marx.
Christ: the principle of love.
Marx: the principle of hate.

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels

Joseph Goebbels on Atheism and "atheism":

Quote:No, the Marxist traitors were the ones who betrayed socialism, and the church was betrayed by those who claimed to defend Christianity but in reality made coalitions with God-denying atheists, thus destroying the foundations of national and Christian morality. —Goebbels, speech 31 July 1932

In Germany we have religious controversies which arise from profound questions of conscience but have nothing whatsoever to do with a denial of religion. These controversies are exploited sometimes by harmless and sometimes malicious critics and a parallel is drawn between them and the absolutely dogmatic atheism of the Bolshevic International. —Goebbels, speech 13 September 1935

Behind the Soviet leadership's pious phrases, we detect the grotesque face of Bolshevist atheism. It has not been liquidated, but rather it is only waiting to begin again its own work of liquidation, completing its work of extermination in the European states that it began with hundreds of thousands of priests in the Soviet Union. Only then, perhaps, will the Christian churches learn what combative enmity to religion really means. —Goebbels, Das Reich, 28 February 1943

https://dailyatheist.blogspot.com/2007/0...heism.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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