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RE: what is the point?
September 14, 2020 at 9:17 pm
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(September 14, 2020 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: what if in your world and theological views you are on the wrong side of history?
Aside from the fact that I am not wrong concerning my understanding of god's non-existence, I will attempt to treat the question as a hypothetical. If someday in my lifetime god's existence is proven empirically, then I would be able to easily accept that I had been wrong. That does not mean, however, that the god in question would still be worthy of acknowledgment or love.
(September 14, 2020 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: How could you not know?
If I was to be judged by a god, first he would have to answer to me. After all, a world that objectively operates as though there is no creator can easily and understandably be viewed as a world where god does not exist.
(September 14, 2020 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: did you not seriously ever objectively look at your beliefs?
Absolutely, and that is why I am an atheist.
And furthermore, the questions you have asked are questions that have been repeatedly asked before. We keep giving our same answers, which keep being ignored by the theists who simply cannot fathom the reality of a world without god's existence. The prideful ones, it seems, are the theists who see a god where there is not one and then demand that others see that same god.
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RE: what is the point?
September 14, 2020 at 9:35 pm
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Quote:what if in your world and theological views you are on the wrong side of history?
You can't be on the wrong side of history idiot and no such thing as an atheist theology or worldview
Quote:How could you not know?
I have no reason to think i'm wrong . Certainly nothing your pathetic apologists have provided
Quote:did you not seriously ever objectively look at your beliefs?
It wouldn't if they did you would just insist they didn't . Because no ones ever allowed to come to any other conclusion then yours 
(September 14, 2020 at 9:17 pm)Eleven Wrote: (September 14, 2020 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: what if in your world and theological views you are on the wrong side of history?
Aside from the fact that I am not wrong concerning my understanding of god's non-existence, I will attempt to treat the question as a hypothetical. If someday in my lifetime god's existence is proven empirically, then I would be able to easily accept that I had been wrong. That does not mean, however, that the god in question would still be worthy of acknowledgment or love.
(September 14, 2020 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: How could you not know?
If I was to be judged by a god, first he would have to answer to me. After all, a world that objectively operates as though there is no creator can easily and understandably be viewed as a world where god does not exist.
(September 14, 2020 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: did you not seriously ever objectively look at your beliefs?
Absolutely, and that is why I am an atheist.
And furthermore, the questions you have asked are questions that have been repeatedly asked before. We keep giving our same answers, which keep being ignored by the theists who simply cannot fathom the reality of a world without god's existence. The prideful ones, it seems, are the theists who see a god where there is not one and then demand that others see that same god. Be careful not to get snared into Dirch's "clever " word games
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RE: what is the point?
September 14, 2020 at 9:53 pm
Hey, drich, I still think that you should go over to the ravingatheists forum and bring some of them to the light.  I haven't seen your handle over there. Did you register as "egor"? 
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September 14, 2020 at 10:15 pm
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"Change was inevitable"
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RE: what is the point?
September 14, 2020 at 10:22 pm
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RE: what is the point?
September 14, 2020 at 10:24 pm
(September 14, 2020 at 9:53 pm)Fireball Wrote: Hey, drich, I still think that you should go over to the ravingatheists forum and bring some of them to the light. I haven't seen your handle over there. Did you register as "egor"?
OMG - not The Egor??????
Can't be the same person. Egor was a raving lunatic but he could spell and even write coherent sentences even if his message was less than coherent.
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RE: what is the point?
September 14, 2020 at 10:24 pm
(September 14, 2020 at 10:22 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Best advocate for atheism that we've ever had. Like one of those old brain on drugs commercials. You have a point
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RE: what is the point?
September 14, 2020 at 11:07 pm
(September 14, 2020 at 10:24 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (September 14, 2020 at 9:53 pm)Fireball Wrote: Hey, drich, I still think that you should go over to the ravingatheists forum and bring some of them to the light. I haven't seen your handle over there. Did you register as "egor"?
OMG - not The Egor??????
Can't be the same person. Egor was a raving lunatic but he could spell and even write coherent sentences even if his message was less than coherent. Given the span of time when the Egor was posting there and now, I'm damned if I can recall what his postings looked like. I DO remember mass quantities of inanity...kind of like what I'm seeing with drich. BTW, he got his ass handed to him for preaching, at another atheist forum. After TFTSNBN banned his ass, and he got a time-out here, he went to that other place. Made it to 120 posts before walking away with his tail between his legs. Ah-ah-ahh, no preaching here!  I'd be amused to see what he says about that. Bullshit would dignify that exposition.
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RE: what is the point?
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(September 14, 2020 at 9:53 pm)Fireball Wrote: Hey, drich, I still think that you should go over to the ravingatheists forum and bring some of them to the light. I haven't seen your handle over there. Did you register as "egor"?
Never heard of this forum before, maybe I'll join.
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RE: what is the point?
September 14, 2020 at 11:15 pm
(September 14, 2020 at 11:07 pm)Fireball Wrote: (September 14, 2020 at 10:24 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: OMG - not The Egor??????
Can't be the same person. Egor was a raving lunatic but he could spell and even write coherent sentences even if his message was less than coherent. Given the span of time when the Egor was posting there and now, I'm damned if I can recall what his postings looked like. I DO remember mass quantities of inanity...kind of like what I'm seeing with drich. BTW, he got his ass handed to him for preaching, at another atheist forum. After TFTSNBN banned his ass, and he got a time-out here, he went to that other place. Made it to 120 posts before walking away with his tail between his legs. Ah-ah-ahh, no preaching here! I'd be amused to see what he says about that. Bullshit would dignify that exposition. I knew that his "vacation" from AF meant he tried out his Evangelical skills elsewhere. Also knew it didn't work out so back he came.
He really should have spent his time off from here attempting to master the language.
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