No knock warrants

[possibletarian]

You're?

Oops. Thanks for catching it.

Boru

I don't get it, you're is correct for saying you are

Your is used for possession.. 'your bike'

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

No, because not all firearm owners are reckless.

Boru

How many aren't?

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I don’t think there’s any way to come up with a number, since ‘reckless’ would include people with unsecured firearms and kids, things like that. No way to check.

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Oops. Thanks for catching it.

Boru

I don't get it, you're is correct for saying you are

Your is used for possession.. 'your bike'

I originally typed ‘you’re idea’ instead of ‘your idea’. I corrected it in all the posts except the one where OLB caught my boneheaded mistake.

Boru

[onlinebiker]

I don't get it, you're is correct for saying you are

Your is used for possession.. 'your bike'

I originally typed ‘you’re idea’ instead of ‘your idea’. I corrected it in all the posts except the one where OLB caught my boneheaded mistake.

Boru

Feel free to nail me when you see one...

They're very likely.


I do not use autocorrect. 

Ever.

[possibletarian]

I don't get it, you're is correct for saying you are

Your is used for possession.. 'your bike'

I originally typed ‘you’re idea’ instead of ‘your idea’. I corrected it in all the posts except the one where OLB caught my boneheaded mistake.

Boru

It happens, my grammar and spelling is terrible at times.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

How many aren't?

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I don’t think there’s any way to come up with a number, since ‘reckless’ would include people with unsecured firearms and kids, things like that. No way to check.

Boru

ERs, mortuaries, both come to mind.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I don’t think there’s any way to come up with a number, since ‘reckless’ would include people with unsecured firearms and kids, things like that. No way to check.

Boru

ERs, mortuaries, both come to mind.

Well, if by ‘reckless’ you mean ‘shooting someone’, I’ll have a lash.

There are an average of 36 000 gun deaths per year in the US. Obviously, not all of those are reckless - some of them are deliberate, planned shootings. However, we’ll be as generous as possible, so let’s assume that all of them are reckless and round it up to 40 000, just to make the maths easier.

But that 40 000 is just deaths. Some shootings clearly don’t result in death, so let’s arbitrarily bump it up to 100 000. We’ll call all of those reckless as well, to account for the I-didn’t-know-it-was-loaded idiots and the people who accidentally shoot themselves in the foot while fondling their guns.

There are, very roughly, 400 000 000 firearms in the hand of private individual in the US. Assuming an average of four weapons per gun owner, that means 100 000 000 people in the US have at least one firearm of some sort (I’ve read that it’s more, but again, I’m being generous).

So, we’ve got 100 000 instances of reckless behaviour spread out among 100 000 000 gun owners. That means one out of every thousand gun owners has, at some point in any given year, behaved recklessly with a gun. So, at most, .001% of gun owners are reckless.

Again, this assumes that ALL shoots, fatal and otherwise are the result of reckless behaviour.

Boru

[Gawdzilla Sama]

ERs, mortuaries, both come to mind.

Well, if by ‘reckless’ you mean ‘shooting someone’, I’ll have a lash.

There are an average of 36 000 gun deaths per year in the US. Obviously, not all of those are reckless - some of them are deliberate, planned shootings. However, we’ll be as generous as possible, so let’s assume that all of them are reckless and round it up to 40 000, just to make the maths easier.

But that 40 000 is just deaths. Some shootings clearly don’t result in death, so let’s arbitrarily bump it up to 100 000. We’ll call all of those reckless as well, to account for the I-didn’t-know-it-was-loaded idiots and the people who accidentally shoot themselves in the foot while fondling their guns.

There are, very roughly, 400 000 000 firearms in the hand of private individual in the US. Assuming an average of four weapons per gun owner, that means 100 000 000 people in the US have at least one firearm of some sort (I’ve read that it’s more, but again, I’m being generous).

So, we’ve got 100 000 instances of reckless behaviour spread out among 100 000 000 gun owners. That means one out of every thousand gun owners has, at some point in any given year, behaved recklessly with a gun. So, at most, .001% of gun owners are reckless.

Again, this assumes that ALL shoots, fatal and otherwise are the result of reckless behaviour.

Boru

No, it means that in those cases reckless behaviour resulted in death or bodily injury and THE CAUSE OF THE SHOOTING WAS CORRECTLY REPORTED. My cousins would never admit that a gun was improperly stored even though they brag that "the government don't have no rules in my house!"

BTW: The End Family Fire site lists eight children a day shot, for 2,920 kids a year. (I don't know what that would be in metric.) That is only events where the owner of the gun lived in the house where the child was shot.

[Sal]

I fail to see how the vague "criminal behavior" root causes are tied with guns, or any use of weaponry. Those are just the tools used by criminals, not why they are criminals - at least not directly - that I can see.

As for the OP, I think that increasing incarceration duration doesn't adequately address crime. That is based on the assumption on the effect of deterrence, not on a solution.

If the correlation between crime and and people in poverty is a constant ratio, wouldn't a decrease in poverty, however that is achieved, also mean a decrease in crime?

I think crime is a symptom of a sociological sort of problem, and using various instances of deterrence is, at best, merely a reaction to the prevalence of crime. I realize this is a rather reductive take, as it doesn't say how to lessen crime (just giving people money, for instance, isn't really addressing poverty because it doesn't solve it, but just, maybe, postponing its effects).

In any case, the casual distribution of guns and the culture surrounding guns, makes me think Americans are on their proverbial toes amongst strangers.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Guns help criminals commit crimes. They're also almost fetishistic symbols to gang bangers and neo-nazis. When I was hunting deserters for the Navy and had to go into South Central LA the US Marshals would go along, twenty of them at a time.