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Noteworthy News
RE: Noteworthy News
Quote:The cops murdered the man in this case? Really? Was that a slip up because English is your second language, or did you really mean to post that? The man shot up his neighbours apartment, remained armed, and refused to surrender? Taking out a threat like that to the rest of the neighbours is freakin murder to you? Am I getting this right? Define murder for me, helios.
That's not what I said. I said ANY instance of the cops murdering black people is enough to warrant protesting them till they clean their act up regardless of wheater or not they were justified in this instance. Nice job totally failing to get the point as usual. 

Epic failure  Hehe
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RE: Noteworthy News
(July 22, 2022 at 4:24 pm)Helios Wrote:
Quote:The cops murdered the man in this case? Really? Was that a slip up because English is your second language, or did you really mean to post that? The man shot up his neighbours apartment, remained armed, and refused to surrender? Taking out a threat like that to the rest of the neighbours is freakin murder to you? Am I getting this right? Define murder for me, helios.
That's not what I said. I said ANY instance of the cops murdering black people is enough to warrant protesting them till they clean their act up regardless of wheater or not they were justified in this instance. Nice job totally failing to get the point as usual. 

Epic failure  Hehe

I never claimed it was bad to protest the police. Don't know where you got that from. All figures of authority should be protested. You think people should come out and protest the police when the police are in the right though? Doesn't quite make sense to me. These people were protesting this particular death, not police brutality or wrongful shootings in general. The protest had a main purpose, which is to shame the police for not using kid gloves on a man who shot up his neighbours apartment and remained armed. These protestors are wrongfully making the case that the police were racist in this instance for doing what was necessary to keep the neighbours safe and alive. They want the shooter and other violent criminals to be protected at all costs, and are willing to live with the neighbours being killed as collateral damage, which makes their views and protest here deeply misguided and wrong.

Look, I've advocated for protecting the worst of the worst people. I've advocated for protecting pedophiles in prison. I want to give inmates more comforts. Serial killers? Give them a video game system in their jail cell and free pot to smoke. Give them voting rights. Making people live a torturous life in prison is awful. It may not sound like it often, but I'm absolutely on the side of people with mental illness or people who made mistakes and ended up losing their freedom and got locked away. When you're in a situation where other, innocent lives are at risk, then you don't get to act with kid gloves in that situation. Your responsibility, first and foremost, should be to the innocent bystanders before a shooter.
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RE: Noteworthy News
(July 22, 2022 at 5:20 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:
(July 22, 2022 at 4:24 pm)Helios Wrote: That's not what I said. I said ANY instance of the cops murdering black people is enough to warrant protesting them till they clean their act up regardless of wheater or not they were justified in this instance. Nice job totally failing to get the point as usual. 

Epic failure  Hehe

I never claimed it was bad to protest the police. Don't know where you got that from. All figures of authority should be protested. You think people should come out and protest the police when the police are in the right though? Doesn't quite make sense to me. These people were protesting this particular death, not police brutality or wrongful shootings in general. The protest had a main purpose, which is to shame the police for not using kid gloves on a man who shot up his neighbours apartment and remained armed. These protestors are wrongfully making the case that the police were racist in this instance for doing what was necessary to keep the neighbours safe and alive. They want the shooter and other violent criminals to be protected at all costs, and are willing to live with the neighbours being killed as collateral damage, which makes their views and protest here deeply misguided and wrong.

Look, I've advocated for protecting the worst of the worst people. I've advocated for protecting pedophiles in prison. I want to give inmates more comforts. Serial killers? Give them a video game system in their jail cell and free pot to smoke. Give them voting rights. Making people live a torturous life in prison is awful. It may not sound like it often, but I'm absolutely on the side of people with mental illness or people who made mistakes and ended up losing their freedom and got locked away. When you're in a situation where other, innocent lives are at risk, then you don't get to act with kid gloves in that situation. Your responsibility, first and foremost, should be to the innocent bystanders before a shooter.
Just to be clear...serial killers do not make a mistake.  Serial killers have to do much more than an isolated oopsy to be convicted as such.
  
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RE: Noteworthy News
Quote:I never claimed it was bad to protest the police. Don't know where you got that from. All figures of authority should be protested. You think people should come out and protest the police when the police are in the right though? Doesn't quite make sense to me. These people were protesting this particular death, not police brutality or wrongful shootings in general. The protest had a main purpose, which is to shame the police for not using kid gloves on a man who shot up his neighbours apartment and remained armed. These protestors are wrongfully making the case that the police were racist in this instance for doing what was necessary to keep the neighbours safe and alive. They want the shooter and other violent criminals to be protected at all costs, and are willing to live with the neighbours being killed as collateral damage, which makes their views and protest here deeply misguided and wrong.
Protesting the police as an institution for its many wrongs is always justified regardless if they were right or wrong in any particular case.


Quote:Look, I've advocated for protecting the worst of the worst people. I've advocated for protecting pedophiles in prison. I want to give inmates more comforts. Serial killers? Give them a video game system in their jail cell and free pot to smoke. Give them voting rights. Making people live a torturous life in prison is awful. It may not sound like it often, but I'm absolutely on the side of people with mental illness or people who made mistakes and ended up losing their freedom and got locked away. When you're in a situation where other, innocent lives are at risk, then you don't get to act with kid gloves in that situation. Your responsibility, first and foremost, should be to the innocent bystanders before a shooter.
Nope, you're a cop bootlicker and you only protest when they interfere with your Reich Wing buddies ..... Dodgy
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RE: Noteworthy News
(July 22, 2022 at 5:26 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(July 22, 2022 at 5:20 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: I never claimed it was bad to protest the police. Don't know where you got that from. All figures of authority should be protested. You think people should come out and protest the police when the police are in the right though? Doesn't quite make sense to me. These people were protesting this particular death, not police brutality or wrongful shootings in general. The protest had a main purpose, which is to shame the police for not using kid gloves on a man who shot up his neighbours apartment and remained armed. These protestors are wrongfully making the case that the police were racist in this instance for doing what was necessary to keep the neighbours safe and alive. They want the shooter and other violent criminals to be protected at all costs, and are willing to live with the neighbours being killed as collateral damage, which makes their views and protest here deeply misguided and wrong.

Look, I've advocated for protecting the worst of the worst people. I've advocated for protecting pedophiles in prison. I want to give inmates more comforts. Serial killers? Give them a video game system in their jail cell and free pot to smoke. Give them voting rights. Making people live a torturous life in prison is awful. It may not sound like it often, but I'm absolutely on the side of people with mental illness or people who made mistakes and ended up losing their freedom and got locked away. When you're in a situation where other, innocent lives are at risk, then you don't get to act with kid gloves in that situation. Your responsibility, first and foremost, should be to the innocent bystanders before a shooter.
Just to be clear...serial killers do not make a mistake.  Serial killers have to do much more than an isolated oopsy to be convicted as such.

I'm aware. I was talking about inmates in general, but serial killers had no choice but to kill serially, given the way the universe operates ( I'm aware that you disagree, but you have no evidence to the contrary, so until free will can be shown to exist, it is merely a supernatural idea no different from the soul. The burden of proof is on you), and treating people like shit in prison doesn't appear to be a deterrent or stopping people from committing crime, so I think it only makes sense that these people deserve some comforts, like in the case of mass shooter Anders Breivik, who gets to play video games in his prison cell, and the crime stats in their society haven't gotten any worse because of it. And like Bernie Sanders points out, if you don't give voting rights to everyone in prison full stop, then the powers that be will use this to take away the voting rights of black drug users and people like that.
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(July 22, 2022 at 5:26 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(July 22, 2022 at 5:20 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: I never claimed it was bad to protest the police. Don't know where you got that from. All figures of authority should be protested. You think people should come out and protest the police when the police are in the right though? Doesn't quite make sense to me. These people were protesting this particular death, not police brutality or wrongful shootings in general. The protest had a main purpose, which is to shame the police for not using kid gloves on a man who shot up his neighbours apartment and remained armed. These protestors are wrongfully making the case that the police were racist in this instance for doing what was necessary to keep the neighbours safe and alive. They want the shooter and other violent criminals to be protected at all costs, and are willing to live with the neighbours being killed as collateral damage, which makes their views and protest here deeply misguided and wrong.

Look, I've advocated for protecting the worst of the worst people. I've advocated for protecting pedophiles in prison. I want to give inmates more comforts. Serial killers? Give them a video game system in their jail cell and free pot to smoke. Give them voting rights. Making people live a torturous life in prison is awful. It may not sound like it often, but I'm absolutely on the side of people with mental illness or people who made mistakes and ended up losing their freedom and got locked away. When you're in a situation where other, innocent lives are at risk, then you don't get to act with kid gloves in that situation. Your responsibility, first and foremost, should be to the innocent bystanders before a shooter.
Just to be clear...serial killers do not make a mistake.  Serial killers have to do much more than an isolated oopsy to be convicted as such.
IA is a determinist ( A self defeating position)
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Noteworthy News
(July 22, 2022 at 6:02 pm)Helios Wrote:
(July 22, 2022 at 5:26 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Just to be clear...serial killers do not make a mistake.  Serial killers have to do much more than an isolated oopsy to be convicted as such.
IA is a determinist ( A self defeating position)

There is randomness as well that dictates some things, but that does not help out the free will side of things. Are you, consciously the author of your own thoughts, or do they just pop into your head?
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Quote:There is randomness as well that dictates some things, but that does not help out the free will side of things. Are you, consciously the author of your own thoughts, or do they just pop into your head?
Yeah, we have been over this already. You failed then you fail now  Dodgy
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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(July 22, 2022 at 4:22 pm)Jackalope Wrote:
(July 22, 2022 at 4:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I was surprised to learn that the minimum sentence he faces is 30 days. I would have imagined that the penalty for ignoring a Congressional subpoena would be stiffer.

Boru

Hopefully his contempt for the law and the J6 committee are considered.

I'm not going to hold my breath.

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(July 23, 2022 at 4:23 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(July 22, 2022 at 4:22 pm)Jackalope Wrote: Hopefully his contempt for the law and the J6 committee are considered.

I'm not going to hold my breath.

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