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Religion vs. Vaccine
July 30, 2021 at 8:19 pm
A "friend" of mine on FB posted this quote
Quote:If you have to be persuaded, reminded pressured, lied to, incentivized, coerced, bullied, socially shamed, guilt-tripped, threatened, punished and criminalized ... If all of this is considered necessary to gain your compliance -- you can be absolutely certain that what is being promoted is not in your best interest. - Ian Watson
Was this person talking about how bad religion is?
Nah. This was a post to show their support for not getting a vaccine.
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RE: Religion vs. Vaccine
July 30, 2021 at 8:23 pm
(July 30, 2021 at 8:19 pm)FredTheLobster Wrote: A "friend" of mine on FB posted this quote
Quote:If you have to be persuaded, reminded pressured, lied to, incentivized, coerced, bullied, socially shamed, guilt-tripped, threatened, punished and criminalized ... If all of this is considered necessary to gain your compliance -- you can be absolutely certain that what is being promoted is not in your best interest. - Ian Watson
Was this person talking about how bad religion is?
Nah. This was a post to show their support for not getting a vaccine.
I kinda like Ian Watson, but he’s dead wrong about this. Tell your friend.
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RE: Religion vs. Vaccine
July 30, 2021 at 8:27 pm
(July 30, 2021 at 8:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (July 30, 2021 at 8:19 pm)FredTheLobster Wrote: A "friend" of mine on FB posted this quote
Was this person talking about how bad religion is?
Nah. This was a post to show their support for not getting a vaccine.
I kinda like Ian Watson, but he’s dead wrong about this. Tell your friend.
Boru
I don't know who Ian Watson is, but I'm sure this quote was about coercion in general, and not the vaccine.
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RE: Religion vs. Vaccine
July 30, 2021 at 8:29 pm
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(July 30, 2021 at 8:27 pm)FredTheLobster Wrote: (July 30, 2021 at 8:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I kinda like Ian Watson, but he’s dead wrong about this. Tell your friend.
Boru
I don't know who Ian Watson is, but I'm sure this quote was about coercion in general, and not the vaccine.
Science fiction writer. And he’s dead wrong regardless of what he was talking about. People often have to be coerced to do something that is in their own best interest.
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RE: Religion vs. Vaccine
July 30, 2021 at 8:33 pm
Sometimes ignorant people don't know what's best for them.
Quote that back to him.
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RE: Religion vs. Vaccine
July 30, 2021 at 10:21 pm
Coercion is a great way to keep people in line - until you' re on the wrong end of it - which odds are - you eventually will be.
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RE: Religion vs. Vaccine
July 30, 2021 at 11:20 pm
(July 30, 2021 at 10:21 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Coercion is a great way to keep people in line - until you' re on the wrong end of it - which odds are - you eventually will be.
Bear that in mind the next time you want to defend the police for doing something shitty.
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RE: Religion vs. Vaccine
July 31, 2021 at 6:35 am
(This post was last modified: July 31, 2021 at 6:36 am by brewer.)
(July 30, 2021 at 8:19 pm)FredTheLobster Wrote: A "friend" of mine on FB posted this quote
Quote:If you have to be persuaded, reminded pressured, lied to, incentivized, coerced, bullied, socially shamed, guilt-tripped, threatened, punished and criminalized ... If all of this is considered necessary to gain your compliance -- you can be absolutely certain that what is being promoted is not in your best interest. - Ian Watson
Was this person talking about how bad religion is?
Nah. This was a post to show their support for not getting a vaccine.
Then your friend loses, and may cause loss for others around them. An ignorant self centered dick move.
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RE: Religion vs. Vaccine
July 31, 2021 at 9:35 am
(This post was last modified: July 31, 2021 at 9:36 am by Spongebob.)
So, has this Watson guy considered things like ending slavery, universal suffrage, equal opportunity, saving money (yes, people have to be coerced into doing this), education, giving up smoking, and probably a slew of other bad behaviors. People often engage in behavior that is bad for them and society in general and once these behaviors become normalized, people are resistant to change. I would even list rampant alcoholism before prohibition and every other form of substance abuse that exists. Watson's attitude is basically just another weak justification of conspiracies. The vast majority of people can tell the difference between good practices and real oppression. Often times they just resist doing the right thing for a wide variety of stupid reasons, but it always boils down to selfishness.
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