Covid 19 conspiracies dump

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

*insert air quotes "facts" meme*

So what is your claim then? The intercept were given forged and fake information after making their freedom of information request?

‘Freedom of information’ assures that the information will be released. It does not guarantee the accuracy of that information.

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Facts were posted by me that were released after a freedom of information request. That was one post of mine that was moved to the conspiracy thread. Facts released after a freedom of information request. The mod moved a post from me with a link from the intercept posting facts. You can't defend that. There's a reason only one mod does this with my posts.

First of all, I am not a mod.

Second of all, few decisions and actions are made by just one person.  Though one person actually clicks the buttons to make things happen, there is usually discussion among the administrators before steps are taken.

And sometimes, the action taken by staff will be rescinded after further discussion. That this hasn’t happened in this case is very telling.

Boru

[Spongebob]

After reading a couple of articles, not delving too deeply, the pushback on GoF funding sounds like the money was never intended to be applied to such research, but rather related research into infectious diseases among humans. The money, however, may have found its way into Chinese labs for that purpose unintentionally. Lots of scientific definitions and gray areas. It doesn't look like anything overt happened but rather what usually happens in a complex world. People will do what they want when no one is looking.

My two takeaways:

1 - Why is the US putting any money into any Chinese research agency? I could understand partnering with information or technology, but this involved actually contracting work to a Chinese lab. Sounds like a bad idea.

2 - I'm completely sick of congressional kangaroo courts. These things are political football games. It's clear the facts and data aren't what's being investigated. Paul was looking to put Fauci on a stake and burn him, plain and simple.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

After reading a couple of articles, not delving too deeply, the pushback on GoF funding sounds like the money was never intended to be applied to such research, but rather related research into infectious diseases among humans.  The money, however, may have found its way into Chinese labs for that purpose unintentionally.  Lots of scientific definitions and gray areas.  It doesn't look like anything overt happened but rather what usually happens in a complex world.  People will do what they want when no one is looking.

My two takeaways:

1 - Why is the US putting any money into any Chinese research agency?  I could understand partnering with information or technology, but this involved actually contracting work to a Chinese lab.  Sounds like a bad idea.

2 - I'm completely sick of congressional kangaroo courts.  These things are political football games.  It's clear the facts and data aren't what's being investigated.  Paul was looking to put Fauci on a stake and burn him, plain and simple.

Bold mine.  

When the topic is virology, bet on the immunologist over the ophthalmologist every time.

Boru

[Fake Messiah]

Here's one

French doctors demand protection from death threats at work

French doctors and scientists on Tuesday called on authorities to take action against the insults and threats— including death threats — that they have frequently received during the coronavirus pandemic.

The doctors said they fear that someone from the world of conspiracy theories will take action, not just against them but against other medical professionals, and condemned the silence of authorities.

“It’s months that some of us are receiving, regularly, death threats. Be it via social networks … Twitter, email, by telephone, or by the post. We are targets,” said Jerome Marty, a physician who heads a union for doctors in private practice, UFMLS.

Some doctors like himself receive threats “several times a day,” he said, and some now have bodyguards.

https://apnews.com/article/europe-scienc...038fb1bd6a

[Irreligious Atheist]

So what is your claim then? The intercept were given forged and fake information after making their freedom of information request?

‘Freedom of information’ assures that the information will be released. It does not guarantee the accuracy of that information.

Boru

So what is your assertion? What are the odds you put on it that this information was forged or faked, and for what reason might it have been forged or faked. Fauci lied to congress and this is something we can say we now know. Gain of function research was funded. You're just trying to throw shit at the wall at this point to try to deny the obvious, and accept that Fauci is a political actor and a major liar, who lied to congress.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

‘Freedom of information’ assures that the information will be released. It does not guarantee the accuracy of that information.

Boru

So what is your assertion? What are the odds you put on it that this information was forged or faked, and for what reason might it have been forged or faked. Fauci lied to congress and this is something we can say we now know. Gain of function research was funded. You're just trying to throw shit at the wall at this point to try to deny the obvious, and accept that Fauci is a political actor and a major liar, who lied to congress.

I haven’t made any assertion. You have, though - you don’t seem to understand that ‘not true’ doesn’t mean ‘forged or faked’. I’m not even asserting that the released information was untrue, merely pointing out that it may not be reliable.

Fauci didn’t lie to Congress, but it’s pretty plain that Paul was intimating that Fauci was somehow responsible for the deaths of 4 million people, which IS a lie.

Boru

[arewethereyet]

‘Freedom of information’ assures that the information will be released. It does not guarantee the accuracy of that information.

Boru

So what is your assertion? What are the odds you put on it that this information was forged or faked, and for what reason might it have been forged or faked. Fauci lied to congress and this is something we can say we now know. Gain of function research was funded. You're just trying to throw shit at the wall at this point to try to deny the obvious, and accept that Fauci is a political actor and a major liar, who lied to congress.

Bold mine - Pot meet kettle.

[Irreligious Atheist]

So what is your assertion? What are the odds you put on it that this information was forged or faked, and for what reason might it have been forged or faked. Fauci lied to congress and this is something we can say we now know. Gain of function research was funded. You're just trying to throw shit at the wall at this point to try to deny the obvious, and accept that Fauci is a political actor and a major liar, who lied to congress.

I haven’t made any assertion. You have, though - you don’t seem to understand that ‘not true’ doesn’t mean ‘forged or faked’. I’m not even asserting that the released information was untrue, merely pointing out that it may not be reliable.

Fauci didn’t lie to Congress, but it’s pretty plain that Paul was intimating that Fauci was somehow responsible for the deaths of 4 million people, which IS a lie.

Boru

So because we can't know for absolute certain that all information from any freedom of information act request is correct and true, any time someone posts a media link to a report about a freedom of information request being granted, the posts will all be moved to the conspiracy section, right? Better officially add that into the rules. Don't post information from freedom of information requests, or off to the conspiracy dungeon for you.

[The Architect Of Fate]

IA keeping his conspiracy crap alive then whining when it is treated as what it is conspiracy crap