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President Biden orders mass deportation of immigrants
#31
RE: President Biden orders mass deportation of immigrants
More like the coast guard hitting boats with water cannons off the gulf.
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#32
RE: President Biden orders mass deportation of immigrants
(September 20, 2021 at 3:54 pm)Mermaid Wrote:
(September 20, 2021 at 3:23 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: I am incapable of twisting logic like the party faithful can. (Both sides)

that's kind of funny because it sure seemed that you did by posting this thread. 

If you think faithful Democrats all love Biden, you think wrong. You can start there.

Neither Bill Clinton, or Hillary Clinton, or Obama or Biden are super heros. I have never viewed them as such and never will.

But between the attitude of the two parties, as voters, not politicians, but mere voters, is more along the lines of attitude that I do value. In valuing workers and pluralism and equality. Nobody should ever consider any politician as a God. 

As far as current history, in the moment, Democrats don't demand blind loyalty anywhere close to the same cult of Trump the GOP does. 

Jen Psaki did not start her first Press Conference by shouting "SIT DOWN'  like Sean Spicer did.
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#33
RE: President Biden orders mass deportation of immigrants
That's definitely how we talk to immigrants at our facilities.
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#34
RE: President Biden orders mass deportation of immigrants
(September 20, 2021 at 2:00 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/18/103859166...-rio-texas

Plans are to deport these Hatians.....

Gee - isn't that the kinda evil stuff President Trump did? Didn' t President Biden campaign on this issue?

https://joebiden.com/presidency-for-all-americans/

Now the fun part --

The excuses of how "this is DIFFERENT"...

Hey, remember that time Trump kept children in deplorable conditions and you guys didn’t give a shit and blamed the parents (I remember you, specifically, spouting that fallacious talking point), but now Republicans are crying about the ‘humanitarian crisis’ at the border and how evil Biden is for letting it go on? I can’t wait for your excuses. “This is DIFFERENT…”

Try harder.
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#35
RE: President Biden orders mass deportation of immigrants
(September 20, 2021 at 4:10 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(September 20, 2021 at 3:54 pm)Mermaid Wrote: that's kind of funny because it sure seemed that you did by posting this thread. 

If you think faithful Democrats all love Biden, you think wrong. You can start there.
How is my logic twisted?


All I did is point out facts.

President Biden' s guys say "We don' t do the things those evil " other guys" do -

Then I show that they use the very laws the previous administration passed to do exactly that ( deport).

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

YMMV

And yet no one in this thread, so far, has said any such thing. We don’t agree with the decision. Your little “gotcha” experiment failed. It failed so epically, I could put a chef’s kiss on it. You must feel awfully stupid right now. If you don’t, you should.
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#36
RE: President Biden orders mass deportation of immigrants
(September 20, 2021 at 4:35 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(September 20, 2021 at 4:32 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Ok, here’s a solution: 

1) Drop the hearing process you use (everyone says it’s broken anyway) and admit everyone who claims to be a refugee. This will at least give them safe haven until their individual cases can be sorted out.

2) Settle these people on Federal land. Create refugee towns.

3) Feed (and otherwise fund) these until they are either self-sustaining or determined to be deportable.

Are there problems with this? Of course (though none of them are financial), but it’s a helluva lot better than simply throwing up your hands and sending them back to the hell holes they ran away from.

Boru

And how many will New Zealand be taking?? I ' m sure you chaps won' t turn away the needy.....

Why would we need to? You’ve got the room and the wherewithal to deal with this yourselves.

I can assure that if Haitian refugees made it to our shores, we wouldn’t simply dump them.  We don’t turn away the needy, but our situation is much different from yours.

Boru
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#37
RE: President Biden orders mass deportation of immigrants
Quote:And how many will New Zealand be taking?? I ' m sure you chaps won' t turn away the needy....
Why is it New Zealand's job to pick up America's slack? Why any other countries job to deal with your migrants? They landed on your shore and are in your sphere of influence they are your responsibility.

(September 20, 2021 at 4:57 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(September 20, 2021 at 4:10 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: How is my logic twisted?


All I did is point out facts.

President Biden' s guys say "We don' t do the things those evil " other guys" do -

Then I show that they use the very laws the previous administration passed to do exactly that ( deport).

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

YMMV

And yet no one in this thread, so far, has said any such thing. We don’t agree with the decision. Your little “gotcha” experiment failed. It failed so epically, I could put a chef’s kiss on it. You must feel awfully stupid right now. If you don’t, you should.
He's so desperate to have his cynical outlook confirmed  Hehe
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#38
RE: President Biden orders mass deportation of immigrants
My bottom line is everyone can play armchair quarterback, and falsely equate both sides as being the same. Fine, you can do that, but my argument is what would you do? How would you fix things? If you have a valid argument/approach, I think any reasonable person would listen.

I personally do not have an answer for sure. I don't think life is as simple as "just do it". But between the two parties currently, there is no way any rational person can claim the GOP is capable of doing a better job. 

So lay out your plan. Tell everyone here what you would do if you were in charge. If it has merit, that is a win for everyone.
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#39
RE: President Biden orders mass deportation of immigrants
(September 20, 2021 at 5:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote: My bottom line is everyone can play armchair quarterback, and falsely equate both sides as being the same. Fine, you can do that, but my argument is what would you do? How would you fix things? If you have a valid argument/approach, I think any reasonable person would listen.

I personally do not have an answer for sure. I don't think life is as simple as "just do it". But between the two parties currently, there is no way any rational person can claim the GOP is capable of doing a better job. 

So lay out your plan. Tell everyone here what you would do if you were in charge. If it has merit, that is a win for everyone.

I gave you a plan. Scroll up.

Boru
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#40
RE: President Biden orders mass deportation of immigrants
(September 20, 2021 at 5:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 20, 2021 at 4:35 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: And how many will New Zealand be taking?? I ' m sure you chaps won' t turn away the needy.....

Why would we need to? You’ve got the room and the wherewithal to deal with this yourselves.

I can assure that if Haitian refugees made it to our shores, we wouldn’t simply dump them.  We don’t turn away the needy, but our situation is much different from yours.

Boru

My, my... Aren't you generous with other people' s resources? Such a humanitarian.....

How many refugees did you guys take in last year? From the pictures and video I have seen - you folks have TONS of lush, green wilderness.PERFECT for refugee settlement...  I' m sure all SORTS of refugees would gnaw off their own left arm to live there.

So how many??? More than a couple thousand?
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