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Pitbulls
#11
RE: Pitbulls
(January 2, 2022 at 7:46 am)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(January 2, 2022 at 7:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Nope. For example, all French people are exactly the same, having been bred to condescending snobbery for countless generations. Therefore, it is completely reasonable to hate and fear all French people.

Boru

Note for the humour impaired: that was a joke.

Yeah.

Why fear the French?

I think for most Americans it's the hair. For most euros it's the cars/driving.
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#12
RE: Pitbulls
Google dog attacks by breed and then make your own conclusions. Mine, there are some breeds I will never trust around kids.
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#13
RE: Pitbulls
(January 2, 2022 at 7:58 am)brewer Wrote: Google dog attacks by breed and then make your own conclusions. Mine, there are some breeds I will never trust around kids.

Google Shark attacks by breed and then make your own conclusions. Don't account for any other factors. Just the google search. Pfft.

One data point = all important.

Don't look into the context around those numbers. That might inform you about the subject.
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#14
RE: Pitbulls
(January 2, 2022 at 8:11 am)Goosebump Wrote:
(January 2, 2022 at 7:58 am)brewer Wrote: Google dog attacks by breed and then make your own conclusions. Mine, there are some breeds I will never trust around kids.

Google Shark attacks by breed and then make your own conclusions. Don't account for any other factors. Just the google search. Pfft.

You asked, I answered, piss off.
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#15
RE: Pitbulls
(January 2, 2022 at 8:13 am)brewer Wrote:
(January 2, 2022 at 8:11 am)Goosebump Wrote: Google Shark attacks by breed and then make your own conclusions. Don't account for any other factors. Just the google search. Pfft.

You asked, I answered, piss off.

Valid, I did just ask why you are afraid of them. I didn't ask that you stick around to learn anything. That would have been on you as a critical thinker.
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#16
RE: Pitbulls
(January 2, 2022 at 8:18 am)Goosebump Wrote:
(January 2, 2022 at 8:13 am)brewer Wrote: You asked, I answered, piss off.

Valid, I did just ask why you are afraid of them. I didn't ask that you stick around to learn anything. That would have been on you as a critical thinker.

Now you can fuck off.
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#17
RE: Pitbulls
(January 2, 2022 at 8:20 am)brewer Wrote:
(January 2, 2022 at 8:18 am)Goosebump Wrote: Valid, I did just ask why you are afraid of them. I didn't ask that you stick around to learn anything. That would have been on you as a critical thinker.

Now you can fuck off.

I do believe it is my thread... so the burden of... well "fuck off" is on you sir. As in, stop reading / replying to it.

IF this is a place of science then science should matter and not just google searches.

In this study, pitbull-type dogs were misidentified 60% of the time (62 were visually identified as pitbull-type dogs but only 25 had DNA signatures from any of the pitbull-type breeds). Therefore, this study determined that the majority (60%) of dogs identified as pitbull-type dogs do not have DNA signatures from any of the four pitbull-type breeds.

I think here if anywhere, the ability and efficacy of the human witness is in question.

In this study, the majority (152 of 244 or 62%) of dogs with pitbull-type DNA had less than a 50% DNA concentration from pitbull-type ancestry. Therefore, this study determined that of the 40% of dogs labeled as "pitbulls" that actually have pitbull-type DNA (study #1), the majority (62%) of these dogs have less than a 50% DNA concentration from pitbull-type ancestry.

The DNA evidence in scientific studies reveals that the breed information for the vast majority of bite-related incidents (including fatal attacks) attributed to pitbull-type dogs is inaccurate and not reliable. Instead, the scientific data and DNA information validates that the majority of dogs implicated in these incidents are in fact non-pitbull type breeds or numerous different mixed breeds that have been misidentified as "pitbulls" or pitbull-type dogs.
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#18
RE: Pitbulls
(January 2, 2022 at 8:23 am)Goosebump Wrote:
(January 2, 2022 at 8:20 am)brewer Wrote: Now you can fuck off.

I do believe it is my thread... so the burden of... well "fuck off" is on you sir. As in, stop reading / replying to it.

IF this is a place of science then science should matter and not just google searches.

In this study, pitbull-type dogs were misidentified 60% of the time (62 were visually identified as pitbull-type dogs but only 25 had DNA signatures from any of the pitbull-type breeds). Therefore, this study determined that the majority (60%) of dogs identified as pitbull-type dogs do not have DNA signatures from any of the four pitbull-type breeds.

I think here if anywhere, the ability and efficacy of the human witness is in question.

In this study, the majority (152 of 244 or 62%) of dogs with pitbull-type DNA had less than a 50% DNA concentration from pitbull-type ancestry. Therefore, this study determined that of the 40% of dogs labeled as "pitbulls" that actually have pitbull-type DNA (study #1), the majority (62%) of these dogs have less than a 50% DNA concentration from pitbull-type ancestry.

The DNA evidence in scientific studies reveals that the breed information for the vast majority of bite-related incidents (including fatal attacks) attributed to pitbull-type dogs is inaccurate and not reliable. Instead, the scientific data and DNA information validates that the majority of dogs implicated in these incidents are in fact non-pitbull type breeds or numerous different mixed breeds that have been misidentified as "pitbulls" or pitbull-type dogs.

You brought up sharks, completely ignorant comparison.

The studies you posted do not address bites or attacks, more ignorance.
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#19
RE: Pitbulls
(January 2, 2022 at 8:52 am)brewer Wrote:
(January 2, 2022 at 8:23 am)Goosebump Wrote: I do believe it is my thread... so the burden of... well "fuck off" is on you sir. As in, stop reading / replying to it.

IF this is a place of science then science should matter and not just google searches.

In this study, pitbull-type dogs were misidentified 60% of the time (62 were visually identified as pitbull-type dogs but only 25 had DNA signatures from any of the pitbull-type breeds). Therefore, this study determined that the majority (60%) of dogs identified as pitbull-type dogs do not have DNA signatures from any of the four pitbull-type breeds.

I think here if anywhere, the ability and efficacy of the human witness is in question.

In this study, the majority (152 of 244 or 62%) of dogs with pitbull-type DNA had less than a 50% DNA concentration from pitbull-type ancestry. Therefore, this study determined that of the 40% of dogs labeled as "pitbulls" that actually have pitbull-type DNA (study #1), the majority (62%) of these dogs have less than a 50% DNA concentration from pitbull-type ancestry.

The DNA evidence in scientific studies reveals that the breed information for the vast majority of bite-related incidents (including fatal attacks) attributed to pitbull-type dogs is inaccurate and not reliable. Instead, the scientific data and DNA information validates that the majority of dogs implicated in these incidents are in fact non-pitbull type breeds or numerous different mixed breeds that have been misidentified as "pitbulls" or pitbull-type dogs.

You brought up sharks, completely ignorant comparison.

The studies you posted do not address bites or attacks, more ignorance.

not saying you didn't read it... but it says clearly... to requote it:

The DNA evidence in scientific studies reveals that the breed information for the vast majority of bite-related incidents (including fatal attacks) attributed to pitbull-type dogs is inaccurate and not reliable. Instead, the scientific data and DNA information validates that the majority of dogs implicated in these incidents are in fact non-pitbull type breeds or numerous different mixed breeds that have been misidentified as "pitbulls" or pitbull-type dogs.

(January 2, 2022 at 8:55 am)Goosebump Wrote:
(January 2, 2022 at 8:52 am)brewer Wrote: You brought up sharks, completely ignorant comparison.

The studies you posted do not address bites or attacks, more ignorance.

not saying you didn't read it... but it says clearly... to requote it:

The DNA evidence in scientific studies reveals that the breed information for the vast majority of bite-related incidents (including fatal attacks) attributed to pitbull-type dogs is inaccurate and not reliable. Instead, the scientific data and DNA information validates that the majority of dogs implicated in these incidents are in fact non-pitbull type breeds or numerous different mixed breeds that have been misidentified as "pitbulls" or pitbull-type dogs.

I don't know how to make it clearer. Please help me to do so as I lack the capacity to see how much clearer I can be than the above statement made by a scientific reporter reporting on science.
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#20
RE: Pitbulls
(January 2, 2022 at 8:55 am)Goosebump Wrote:
(January 2, 2022 at 8:52 am)brewer Wrote: You brought up sharks, completely ignorant comparison.

The studies you posted do not address bites or attacks, more ignorance.

not saying you didn't read it... but it says clearly... to requote it:

The DNA evidence in scientific studies reveals that the breed information for the vast majority of bite-related incidents (including fatal attacks) attributed to pitbull-type dogs is inaccurate and not reliable. Instead, the scientific data and DNA information validates that the majority of dogs implicated in these incidents are in fact non-pitbull type breeds or numerous different mixed breeds that have been misidentified as "pitbulls" or pitbull-type dogs.

(January 2, 2022 at 8:55 am)Goosebump Wrote: not saying you didn't read it... but it says clearly... to requote it:

The DNA evidence in scientific studies reveals that the breed information for the vast majority of bite-related incidents (including fatal attacks) attributed to pitbull-type dogs is inaccurate and not reliable. Instead, the scientific data and DNA information validates that the majority of dogs implicated in these incidents are in fact non-pitbull type breeds or numerous different mixed breeds that have been misidentified as "pitbulls" or pitbull-type dogs.

I don't know how to make it clearer. Please help me to do so as I lack the capacity to see how much clearer I can be than the above statement made by a scientific reporter reporting on science.

Are you really this dense? DNA evidence in shelter dog identification , blah, blah, blah.

Dogs are bred for certain characteristics/traits. Hunting dogs point/flush, retrievers, well, they retrieve, duck tollers and sheepdogs-guess what they do, all without training (look at puppy behavior). Some dogs are bred to be protect/attack and will with or without training. Will all of them have the drive to attack, nope, but a high percentage will. 

Look at attack reports, bite reports, and insurance coverage denial by bred.......... Just because some dogs were misidentified in shelters as pitbulls does not mean shit.

BTW, your OP is incorrect, to quote you "but pitbulls are not big dogs". Some can be small, but they can get up to ~85 lbs, that's not small or little by dog standards.

You are biased, you only know the one dog.
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