Russia and Ukraine

[Thumpalumpacus]

"At 02:50, Russian terrorists carried out an internal detonation of the structures of the Kakhovskaya HPP. About 80 settlements are in the zone of flooding," Zelenskiy said after an emergency meeting of senior officials.

A Ukrainian military spokesperson said Russia's aim was to prevent Ukrainian troops crossing the Dnipro River to attack Russian occupying forces.

Russia said Ukraine sabotaged the dam to cut off water supplies to Crimea and to distract attention from its faltering counteroffensive.

"We can state unequivocally that we are talking about deliberate sabotage by the Ukrainian side," Kremlin Spokesman Peskov told reporters.

Earlier some Russian-installed officials said no attack had taken place. Vladimir Rogov, a Russian installed official in Zaporizhzhia, said the dam collapsed due to earlier damage and the pressure of the water. Russia's state news agency TASS carried a report to the same effect.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/wha...023-06-06/

I don't think we'll know who did what, if anything, until the Ukrainians recapture the area. I definitely think that the timing points to a deliberate act by Russians, but at best that's circumstantial evidence. I've read that the dam had been previously damaged in the fighting too, which could be a cause or a contributing factor.

You know, Russians torture and kill at will in Syria, but the west kept silent about it for years and years, what's so special about Ukraine now? or Syrians weren't "human" enough for the west?

Gotcha, they weren't "blue-eyed blondes" like Ukranians I guess:

You act surprised. How naive are you?

[The Grand Nudger]

I think the ukranian leadership is fine with calling any act of criminal negligence deliberate, at this point.

[The Architect Of Fate]

You mean "the only super-power".
Unless you think that wasted money and men, soldiers and even political power are not exhaustion, then you are hugely mistaken.

Lots of powers are being exhausted, economy experts must tell you...or job owners.

America is still the only superpower China doesn't even come close. America isn't even close to exhausted.

[Deesse23]

You know, Russians torture and kill at will in Syria, but the west kept silent about it for years and years, what's so special about Ukraine now? or Syrians weren't "human" enough for the west?

Gotcha, they weren't "blue-eyed blondes" like Ukranians I guess:

Does your ignorance have ANY limits?

To a REAL racist the ukrainians are "slavic subhumans". Have you never read about the german invasion of Ukraine in WWII?
Who is tying your shoelaces each morning btw?

You are literally too ignorant to be able to properly accuse others of racism. But yeah, keep investigating about Achenaton and Islam. Keep yourself utterly uninformed. Be a good example for everyone to see where such monumental religiously motivated ignorance like yours leads to.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I think you know what I'm saying while I'm reading this post

It's not a respected tactic to talk in "puzzles" that nobody understands.
Please, elaborate so we understand you.

If you think it’ll clear things up, I’ll be happy to delete all those puzzling ‘Quranic Reflections’ threads of yours…

Boru

[The Architect Of Fate]

Actually, I won't hide my shock that the West is fighting Russia now after it closed its eyes (and even aided) in Russian massacres in Syria.

America opposed Russia's actions in Syria it was the Syrian government that welcomed Russia in with open arms. 

I just find it hilarious that the Russian snake bit the west in the arse and began to treat westerners like it treats Syrians.

Nope Russia and the Syrian government committed most if not all the atrocities in Syria and the west condemned it 

You know, Russians torture and kill at will in Syria, but the west kept silent about it for years and years, what's so special about Ukraine now? or Syrians weren't "human" enough for the west?

 The West did not so this is a lie. The Syrian government on the other hand both supported those actions and covered them up.

Gotcha, they weren't "blue-eyed blondes" like Ukranians I guess:

Most Ukrainians are neither 

To understand how I feel, imagine a guy being hit by bullies, while another guy is safe and even aiding the bullies.

That sounds like the Syrian Government supporting Russia 

So the beaten dude would keep saying: "why me why me why me?"

Pretty sure we went after Syria for slaughtering its own people for complaining about not being like the West

Then tries to rise. To get surprised by the other guy kicking him to the ground again.

You mean like all the democratic groups that rose in Syria that West defended from the Syrian government and the Russians 

When he screams, the other guy laughs and call him "terrorist".

Pretty sure the Syrian government using violence to scare your population into compliance is terrorism 

But someday, the bullies turn to the other guy and begin beating him

Again your perfectly describing the Syrian Government's alliance with Russia

Wouldn't you feel relieved?

Well considering the Syrian government is still in power the bullied are still being bullied 

But then comes atomic bombs.

There will only be nuclear war if one of you lunatics gets the bomb. 


So any other Whataboutism you want to toss out?

[WinterHold]

Winterhold, if the U.S. had intervened more in Syria, you would be blasting them for their proxy wars or expansionism.  Everything the U.S. does is bad - I get it.

When a country goes to war, they do so for self interest.  Full stop.  One can agree with those interests, or in the international rules that justify the conflict, or not.  

With Ukraine, I selfishly do not want Russia becoming a renewed Empire, because it makes the world more dangerous, and Russia never will be a democratic state.  I also believe that the post-WWII rules that a country can't increase its own borders through war is a valid one (though proxy wars still seem to be allowed).

Quite wrong, the cause is way bigger than the U.S: the cause is standing against the absurd expansion of secular thought; and its immoral corruption on earth.

Secular thought built this hellish world of today that is an immoral jungle;with its borders kept safe by the fragile constraint of Nuclear Deterrence.
The weak get chopped and eaten with its civilians being isolated in concentration camps like dogs.

This hell only lasted for 80 years, from WW2 to this day.

Russia is not alone in this you know, I repeated thousands of times that China is with it. And both (along with other mini-powers like North Korea) want the spot of the U.S .

I believe that Ukraine is only one front of WW3.
Nukes will start dropping soon enough, just like the whole world entered this war by proxy, direct intervention will happen soon.

Many don't like the rules of the world today, including Russia and China (Gog and Magog).

And just like Russia is the descendants of the Golden Horde, and China are the decedents of the Mongols, a WW3 will come and new horrors will come with it (like the first Mongol expansions).

[WinterHold]

It's not a respected tactic to talk in "puzzles" that nobody understands.
Please, elaborate so we understand you.

If you think it’ll clear things up, I’ll be happy to delete all those puzzling ‘Quranic Reflections’ threads of yours…

Boru

Literally, they were "Quranic Reflections" in an "Islamic section" of an "atheist forum", connect the dots to solve the puzzle:

"The answer is that they are "Quranic reflections" preached to atheists so they change their view about the Quran & Islam -_-".

[The Grand Nudger]

Is that what you're trying to do? What if I told you that you were reinforcing atheists views about magic book and it's religion? Same thing you do in this thread.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Is that what you're trying to do?  What if I told you that you were reinforcing atheists views about magic book and it's religion?  Same thing you do in this thread.

I suspect (but cannot prove) that Winter is actually a secret Christian working to destroy Islam. That might explain why post after post of his does little more than expose Islam for the barbaric idiocy it is.

Boru