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RE: Luke 4:5
December 3, 2022 at 6:51 am
(December 3, 2022 at 2:18 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (December 1, 2022 at 1:48 pm)Ranjr Wrote: If I remember Josephus correctly, going into the wilderness was a right of passage for the Essene sect.
Like Brewer, I view Jesus story as a Castaneda experience. He was tripping.
Tripping by not eating. Fasting has been a common religious ritual ever since people discovered (probably involuntarily, in periods of famine) that hunger produces hallucinations. Hallucinations, like dreams, have always been regarded as forms of communication with the supernatural.
Some American Indian tribes send young men into the wilderness to fast until they see visions, which were supposed to show them their personal spirit guides.
Similarly, medieval saints too were much given to fasting, which made them "encounter" angelic or demonic beings. Therefore fasting was considered to have magic powers. Some people fasted in order to encounter demons and use them to cause harm to others - that was known as the BLACK FAST. A woman named Mabel Brigge was executed in 1538 for carrying out a black fast against Henry VIII and the Duke of Norfolk. The bishop of Durham officially forbade black fasting in 1577.
^This is true. If I go without eating for more than a few hours, I start hallucinating about roast beef on rye.
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RE: Luke 4:5
December 3, 2022 at 8:13 am
In the modern era, fasting means drinking diet pop.
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RE: Luke 4:5
December 3, 2022 at 9:56 am
Yeah, I'm still going with the ergot/shroom connection.
Didn't they eat a lot of moldy rye bread? Desert fungi?
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RE: Luke 4:5
December 3, 2022 at 10:07 am
I think I should be disappointed. It's not unusual for me to eat one small meal a day. And I often have to force myself to do that. So far, I been cheated out of the tripping thing. I want visions, damn it!
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RE: Luke 4:5
December 3, 2022 at 11:20 am
I remember in high school, I fasted for several days, then ate a bowl of frosted mini-wheats before going to a party. I drank a good portion of a gallon jug of Boone's farm apple wine and ended up having an extended conversation with the blanket that was draped over the chair next to me.
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RE: Luke 4:5
December 3, 2022 at 11:23 am
(December 3, 2022 at 11:20 am)Angrboda Wrote: I remember in high school, I fasted for several days, then ate a bowl of frosted mini-wheats before going to a party. I drank a good portion of a gallon jug of Boone's farm apple wine and ended up having an extended conversation with the blanket that was draped over the chair next to me.
IIRC, Boone's Farm would cause that even if you had eaten.
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RE: Luke 4:5
December 3, 2022 at 11:25 am
(December 3, 2022 at 10:07 am)arewethereyet Wrote: I think I should be disappointed. It's not unusual for me to eat one small meal a day. And I often have to force myself to do that. So far, I been cheated out of the tripping thing. I want visions, damn it!
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RE: Luke 4:5
December 3, 2022 at 11:29 am
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(December 3, 2022 at 11:20 am)Angrboda Wrote: I remember in high school, I fasted for several days, then ate a bowl of frosted mini-wheats before going to a party. I drank a good portion of a gallon jug of Boone's farm apple wine and ended up having an extended conversation with the blanket that was draped over the chair next to me.
OMG, Boone's farm! First time was Annie Green Springs, puked my guts out and then passed out under a car. Oh to be 13 again.
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