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How much pain can atheists withstand ?
RE: How much pain can atheists withstand ?
(May 6, 2023 at 9:31 am)The End of Atheism Wrote:
(May 3, 2023 at 7:55 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: There is no evidence for a next life.

It is biologically impossible.

God isn't constrained by biology. He can create another life by other means

*Yawn* There is no evidence for your claim.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: How much pain can atheists withstand ?
(May 6, 2023 at 9:48 am)The End of Atheism Wrote:
(May 6, 2023 at 9:44 am)no one Wrote: god is make believe, pure and simple.

Prove Zeus doesn't exist. Or any of the other gods you do not believe in do not exist.
I didn't claim Zeus doesn't exist, I just say his existence is vanishingly unlikely.

But you claimed God positively doesn't exist. Again, prove your claim bro

For me it seems people here view biblical god the same as you view Zeus. "I didn't claim Zeus doesn't exist, I just say his existence is vanishingly unlikely". People here don't care about Biblical God the same way you don't care about Zeus. It sums it up perfectly. You are wasting your time...
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RE: How much pain can atheists withstand ?
(May 6, 2023 at 9:56 am)purplepurpose Wrote: For me it seems people here view biblical god the same as you view Zeus.
But they're not the same, Zeus refers to a mythology by definition. God refers to many metaphysical concepts like necessary being, first cause, first mover, etc. And there are ofc arguments out there that these concepts are real
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RE: How much pain can atheists withstand ?
(May 6, 2023 at 9:28 am)The End of Atheism Wrote: Oh come on, you can choose to accept God's existence, that's all it takes. It's not hard, you can do it.
Let me try.

"Great God Cthulhu, eat my ass first!"

Jeopardy theme plays.

Nope, nothing. Hmph
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RE: How much pain can atheists withstand ?
(May 6, 2023 at 9:58 am)The End of Atheism Wrote:
(May 6, 2023 at 9:56 am)purplepurpose Wrote: For me it seems people here view biblical god the same as you view Zeus.
But they're not the same, Zeus refers to a mythology by definition. God refers to many metaphysical concepts like necessary being, first cause, first mover, etc. And there are ofc arguments out there that these concepts are real

People here are so disspointed in Bible that they gather Zeus, Bible and all other Gods and put them in to the myth section and spit on it.
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RE: How much pain can atheists withstand ?
Again I don't want to get into my personal belief, but the bible has little value for me. God's existence is independent from revealed books. Don't get me wrong I can see the issue from the atheist's POV : it's not plain to them that there is a creator when they look around. But still all experience show that only personal agents produce things. It takes work to accomplish things. A fortiori, it took some agent's work to bring about this universe and all it contains
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RE: How much pain can atheists withstand ?
(May 6, 2023 at 10:06 am)The End of Atheism Wrote: Again I don't want to get into my personal belief, but the bible has little value for me. God's existence is independent from revealed books. Don't get me wrong I can see the issue from the atheist's POV : it's not plain to them that there is a creator when they look around. But still all experience show that only personal agents produce things. It takes work to accomplish things. A fortiori, it took some agent's work to bring about this universe and all it contains

Does Jesus of the Bible has value for you?
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RE: How much pain can atheists withstand ?
YOU claim a god exists, so the burden of proof is on you.
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RE: How much pain can atheists withstand ?
(May 6, 2023 at 10:08 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Does Jesus of the Bible has value for you?

I think Jesus is mythologized in the bible. I believe he existed but not as described in the bible
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RE: How much pain can atheists withstand ?
(May 6, 2023 at 10:12 am)The End of Atheism Wrote:
(May 6, 2023 at 10:08 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Does Jesus of the Bible has value for you?

I think Jesus is mythologized in the bible. I believe he existed but not as described in the bible

They way you don't care about the Jesus and Zeus, people don't care about your God who tortures people. Don't waste your time.
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