How much pain can atheists withstand ?

[MisterBobbyPin]

Well hold on, who says any of us would go to hell? Wouldn't any God judge us based on what we do rather then what we believe. If I go save 12 people but don't believe in a God does that then cancel out the 12 people I've saved? Why does a God need me to believe in him rather than just decide on my fate based on how many people I've helped?

[Mister Agenda]

All the facts that are available to the humanists your refer to, are also available to the theist. The atheist, however, doesn't have the framework to assess any given situation as bad. A child needlessly starved to death is, strictly speaking, a net evolutionary gain in the cold, indifferent universe that your worldview promotes. A child's starvation to death is evolutionarily beneficial, as there will less vulnerable life forms consuming scarce resources without making any contribution to the world. Not a healthy perspective huh ?

Evolution is a description of what happens in nature, not a prescription for how to act. I agree that's not a healthy perspective, but I don't know a single atheist who holds that perspective. Social darwinism is incompatible with humanism.

[Mister Agenda]

A god who would torture anyone for eternity is not only hostile but infinitely evil.

Why do you worship an evil god, TEoA?

You should first define the contentious word "evil". And then we'll discuss your opinion

My definition of evil:  Deliberately causing pain and suffering to a sentient being.

Nothing more to discuss.

I would add 'unnecessary'.

Note: Should have read the very next post where Boru already pointed this out.

[purplepurpose]

End of Atheism. You said that Jesus was a simple human. Would you consider him to be a prophet who had divine revelation from God? Can you give more detailed comments on your view of Jesus?

[A. Secular Human]

People fought nazis. If God takes such hostile position, then he asks for rebellion.

God isn't hostile, why are you saying this

How can you describe a genocidal rapist as anything but "hostile"?

(I'm describing your "god", not Nazis., though Nazis actually exist.)

[A. Secular Human]

Do demons and imps in hell repent? Or they howl and curse God like insane?

It's too late to repent in hell. They can say whatever they want it doesn't matter unfortunately

How do you know what the operative functions are in your "hell"?  Have you been there?

[A. Secular Human]

That's proof of exactly fuck-all. 

Nobody cares <snip>

You're failing <snip>

Can you like, put in some extra effort when answering ?

Pointing to man-made structures and then trying to impose that onto life the universe and everything....Instant false comparison

That's the same comparison that Hume spent a lifetime pondering, and ended up acknolwedging it resolves into amoral theism. 

I guess you should take some time to use what's inside your skull (if any), before jumping on the keyboard.

That sounds very much like yet another logical fallacy - Appeal to Authority (Hume).

We could use your "arguments" as great examples of what *not* to do in a debate, for a class.

[Angrboda]

Can you like, put in some extra effort when answering ?


That's the same comparison that Hume spent a lifetime pondering, and ended up acknolwedging it resolves into amoral theism. 

I guess you should take some time to use what's inside your skull (if any), before jumping on the keyboard.

That sounds very much like yet another logical fallacy - Appeal to Authority (Hume).

We could use your "arguments" as great examples of what *not* to do in a debate, for a class.

It's a moot point. Despite claiming that Hume made such an acknowledgment, he apparently cannot present any such acknowledgment.

[Kingpin]

End of Atheism....I have no words. Do not cast me in that same lot as you when it comes to theism. What you are espousing is NOT Christianity in any definition of the term.

[The Grand Nudger]

There's nothing unchristian about threatening heathens with hellfire.