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April 9, 2011 at 2:31 pm
(This post was last modified: April 9, 2011 at 4:27 pm by Emporion.)
I found that the view column only displays the number of time the thread has being loaded into the browser. Is it possible to track by I.P. address, in order to make the view column more accurate or add another view especially for how many users have actually viewed the thread and maybe something similar for each post in the thread? Maybe even the shoutbox, too?
I hope I'm not the only one who wants some more accuracy and clarity regarding the viewing column(s). Whomever is with me on this say "Aye".
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RE: View numbers
April 9, 2011 at 3:27 pm
The "Views" column lists the number of views a thread has got; it's that simple. I don't see how I can make it any simpler than that.
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RE: View numbers
April 9, 2011 at 4:11 pm
(April 9, 2011 at 3:27 pm)Tiberius Wrote: The "Views" column lists the number of views a thread has got; it's that simple. I don't see how I can make it any simpler than that.
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RE: View numbers
April 9, 2011 at 4:17 pm
I dont even read the 'views' column...i just see if the thread topic interests me and if there are replies...
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RE: View numbers
April 9, 2011 at 4:26 pm
(April 9, 2011 at 3:27 pm)Tiberius Wrote: The "Views" column lists the number of views a thread has got; it's that simple. I don't see how I can make it any simpler than that.
It is simple, but it's also vague. How will I know how many members have viewed a thread and a post?
Answer: I can't.
That's my point.
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RE: View numbers
April 9, 2011 at 4:35 pm
(April 9, 2011 at 4:26 pm)Emporion Wrote: It is simple, but it's also vague. How will I know how many members have viewed a thread and a post?
Answer: I can't.
That's my point. One would question why you wanted to know that in the first place; usually the people who are actually interested in a thread are the ones who post in it as well. Since only members can post, you can get a pretty good idea about who has viewed a thread by the posts and kudos that are in it.
We aren't going to change it; not because it would be too hard, but because it would be a strain on resources and ultimately pointless (i.e. there is really no benefit from it). To do it we'd have to track every member who has gone to the thread, check whether they have visited before, and if not, add a new row to some table in the database, and we'd have to do that for every member, for every thread. I don't want to do the math, but it's a lot of overhead for the simple act of giving you a single number.
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RE: View numbers
April 9, 2011 at 5:40 pm
(April 9, 2011 at 4:35 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (April 9, 2011 at 4:26 pm)Emporion Wrote: It is simple, but it's also vague. How will I know how many members have viewed a thread and a post?
Answer: I can't.
That's my point.
One would question why you wanted to know that in the first place; usually the people who are actually interested in a thread are the ones who post in it as well. Since only members can post, you can get a pretty good idea about who has viewed a thread by the posts and kudos that are in it.
I just wished I knew how many members had viewed a thread and posts. It's just a bit too vague for me because sometimes I read the numbers and wish I knew how many members had read my post.
More members appear to read posts in a thread rather than replying(except for the page reloading). I guess I sometimes wish I was one or the really popular people whom everyone who learns about them or what they say wants to reply back.
I get pangs of the same wishful thinking when I see the imbalance of replies to views on thread topic I find interesting, even mine.
(April 9, 2011 at 4:35 pm)Tiberius Wrote: We aren't going to change it; not because it would be too hard, but because it would be a strain on resources and ultimately pointless (i.e. there is really no benefit from it). To do it we'd have to track every member who has gone to the thread, check whether they have visited before, and if not, add a new row to some table in the database, and we'd have to do that for every member, for every thread. I don't want to do the math, but it's a lot of overhead for the simple act of giving you a single number.
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Honestly, I just thought it was a simple fix. I had no idea how much overhead it was to make the change. Most of my web knowledge I have are from 2 half semester classes about html and css at a community college in California, where I live. The discrete math class, I am in now, is teaching me new connections between sets and the data structures I learned form one semester of C++ and part of a book on Objective-C at the same college. Just wondering, how much of this kind of knowledge do you have?
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RE: View numbers
April 9, 2011 at 7:25 pm
(April 9, 2011 at 5:40 pm)Emporion Wrote: Honestly, I just thought it was a simple fix. I had no idea how much overhead it was to make the change. Most of my web knowledge I have are from 2 half semester classes about html and css at a community college in California, where I live. The discrete math class, I am in now, is teaching me new connections between sets and the data structures I learned form one semester of C++ and part of a book on Objective-C at the same college. Just wondering, how much of this kind of knowledge do you have? I've been designing websites since I was 13, so that's almost 10 years now. I've been coding PHP since I was about 15, so that's 8. I've done 3 years of a Computer Science BSc, and 1 year of an Information Security MSc. During those 4 years I've studied web design, server management, and networking.
Oh, and I've been managing Atheist Forums for 3 years in some way or another. That included setting up the entire server (twice now), writing a few modifications for the forums, etc.
If you can think up a good way to do it that doesn't waste space, I'll hear you out, but at the moment I don't see it as an important issue.
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RE: View numbers
April 10, 2011 at 2:36 am
(This post was last modified: April 10, 2011 at 2:37 am by Emporion.)
(April 9, 2011 at 7:25 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (April 9, 2011 at 5:40 pm)Emporion Wrote: Honestly, I just thought it was a simple fix. I had no idea how much overhead it was to make the change. Most of my web knowledge I have are from 2 half semester classes about html and css at a community college in California, where I live. The discrete math class, I am in now, is teaching me new connections between sets and the data structures I learned form one semester of C++ and part of a book on Objective-C at the same college. Just wondering, how much of this kind of knowledge do you have? I've been designing websites since I was 13, so that's almost 10 years now. I've been coding PHP since I was about 15, so that's 8. I've done 3 years of a Computer Science BSc, and 1 year of an Information Security MSc. During those 4 years I've studied web design, server management, and networking.
Oh, and I've been managing Atheist Forums for 3 years in some way or another. That included setting up the entire server (twice now), writing a few modifications for the forums, etc.
If you can think up a good way to do it that doesn't waste space, I'll hear you out, but at the moment I don't see it as an important issue.
Holy Shit!
hock:
Do you know what your IQ is?
Ok. Is there any way for you to set it up for one member and have it work for ever member without any more setup?
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RE: View numbers
April 10, 2011 at 6:40 am
(This post was last modified: April 10, 2011 at 6:41 am by KichigaiNeko.)
Emporion!! Stop being a bloody pervert!!
You get the number of views a post has...any more than that is just ego massaging!!
GET OVER IT! 
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