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2024 US Presidential Election
RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
Does anybody seriously believe this decrepit hot mess has the stamina for another 4 years?

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
Quote:Vice President Harris holds a 7-point edge over former President Trump nationally in a new poll, marking the latest gain for the Democratic presidential candidate as the general election approaches.

A survey from Fairleigh Dickinson University, released last Friday, found Harris leading Trump 50 to 43 percent nationally, while 7 percent said they will vote for someone else. Trump and Harris fare equally well with voters from their party, each having 95 percent support from their partisans, pollsters found.

With independents who do not lean towards either party, Harris still leads Trump, but by a smaller margin, 38 to 33 percent, the poll found. Harris holds a large lead among self-identified liberals, 87 to 10 percent, along with progressives, 93 to 5 percent, and moderates, 62 to 30 percent.

The former president, meanwhile, leads among conservatives 76 to 19 percent, and MAGA [Make American Great Again] voters, 95 to 4 percent.

Pollsters noted race or gender played a large role in pushing Harris’s lead. When voters are asked to think about race or gender, Harris’s lead grows significantly, while support for her and Trump are virtually tied when they are not made to think about it, they said.

Trump saw his strongest support among men “who hold traditionally masculine identities,” while women and other men who reject these identities favor Harris, according to pollsters.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/48...ints-poll/

Is it shaping up like 2016 Pt II?

And this:

Quote:Republican pollster Frank Luntz signaled that independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s backing of former President Trump could help him win battleground states in 2024.

Luntz said that while Kennedy’s poll numbers have dropped since Vice President Harris ascended to the top of the Democratic Party presidential ticket, his remaining supporters could provide enough backing to tip some swing-state results in Trump’s favor.

“It’s probably worth about 1 percent for Trump and that 1 percent could be everything if it’s in the swing states,” Luntz said during his Friday appearance on NewsNation’s “On Balance” with Leland Vittert.

“In the end, the reason why Kennedy was drawing 10, 12, even as high as 14 percent is because he was taking votes away from Joe Biden,” he continued. “Joe Biden’s gone. Kamala Harris has replaced him, and [Kennedy’s] vote collapsed down to about 4 or 5 percent and what’s left is a Trump vote.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/48...legrounds/

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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
I hate how they're still talking about swing states - big data has made it so that political campaigns microtarget counties. That's how the state swings. We don't like to think of it this way, but a few thousand people in a handful of counties decide our elections. If you don't live in those places...your vote doesn't matter. It's background noise. A useful prop to continue the farce.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
All the more reason for doing away with the Electoral College.
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
Oh, sure, but you have to remember that maga doesn't respect the popular vote either. That's why I think it's so funny that the solution to these fucks, we hear, is to vote more - even though the forces not aligned with maga have been "voting more" for decades. What happens when people do organize, though? Ask arkansas. What happens when they vote? Ask ohio.

The reich just says fuck you.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
Rich Lowrey, editor in chief for the National Review, has an op/ed piece in today's New York Times arguing that Trump can defeat Harris on "character."

"Everything has to be connected to the deeper case that Ms. Harris is weak, a phony, and doesn’t truly care about the country or the middle class. The scattershot Trump attacks on Harris need to be refocused on these character attributes."

Project, project, project. Ignore policy, call the opponent names instead. Good luck with that.
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(August 26, 2024 at 12:09 pm)Nanny Wrote: Rich Lowrey, editor in chief for the National Review, has an op/ed piece in today's New York Times arguing that Trump can defeat Harris on "character."

"Everything has to be connected to the deeper case that Ms. Harris is weak, a phony, and doesn’t truly care about the country or the middle class. The scattershot Trump attacks on Harris need to be refocused on these character attributes."

Project, project, project. Ignore policy, call the opponent names instead. Good luck with that.

And yet, Trump’s handlers - you know, those people actually IN the campaign - are losing their minds over Trump’s incessant name calling, pleading with him to stay on policy.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(August 26, 2024 at 12:09 pm)Nanny Wrote: Rich Lowrey, editor in chief for the National Review, has an op/ed piece in today's New York Times arguing that Trump can defeat Harris on "character."

"Everything has to be connected to the deeper case that Ms. Harris is weak, a phony, and doesn’t truly care about the country or the middle class. The scattershot Trump attacks on Harris need to be refocused on these character attributes."

Project, project, project. Ignore policy, call the opponent names instead. Good luck with that.

The only character Trump has is the one he's scripted for himself. He has no core values other than what is good for Donald Trump.

He makes me think of a malignant Jay Gatsby.

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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
Trump is working on the "right" spin to get out of the debate with Ms. Harris on September 10th. I don't know how many ways he and his minions can prove they are afraid of women. And heaven forbid, women in a position of power, and not white.

It's not unusual for a bully to show their cowardice.

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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(August 26, 2024 at 12:41 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 26, 2024 at 12:09 pm)Nanny Wrote: Rich Lowrey, editor in chief for the National Review, has an op/ed piece in today's New York Times arguing that Trump can defeat Harris on "character."

"Everything has to be connected to the deeper case that Ms. Harris is weak, a phony, and doesn’t truly care about the country or the middle class. The scattershot Trump attacks on Harris need to be refocused on these character attributes."

Project, project, project. Ignore policy, call the opponent names instead. Good luck with that.

And yet, Trump’s handlers - you know, those people actually IN the campaign - are losing their minds over Trump’s incessant name calling, pleading with him to stay on policy.

Boru

Rock and a hard place.  No one likes their policies, not even magats, but the donalds cult of personality is based on donald being donald unfiltered. When we normies see "character" we think "good character". That's not what the magats see or judge on. They mean the donald could better position himself if he had the discipline to cultivate loyalist character. A list of things other people might call bad but the afflicted consider good.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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