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2024 US Presidential Election
RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(September 24, 2024 at 6:11 am)Belacqua Wrote: This is how the Democrats became the pro-fascist party. You will happily give up your civil rights out of fear of imaginary bots. THEY'RE UNDER YOUR BED!!!

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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
A few days ago at work, an older gentleman resident pointed at the telly and said, "That right there is an idiot."

Looking up, who did I see?

Kamala Harris.

Faux News really should be blocked in nursing homes.
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(September 24, 2024 at 6:11 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(September 23, 2024 at 9:28 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Yeah, I don't mind them going after Chinese and Russian bot presences, considering what those have tied doing with our elections and society at large. I assume that stuff doesn't bother you.

This is how the Democrats became the pro-fascist party. You will happily give up your civil rights out of fear of imaginary bots. THEY'RE UNDER YOUR BED!!!

Do you know how many pro-Trump bots I've blocked on Twitter?

Hundreds.

Joined 2016, 6 followers and no original posts or, in some cases, no reposts.

Dozens of accounts like that alone.

Statistically, even without trying to get followers, you should have a reasonable number after 8 years.

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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
Trump, Fantasy Plumber

Quote:“You have millions of gallons of water pouring down from the north, with the snow caps and Canada, and all pouring down,” Trump said just an hour into the press conference. "And they have, essentially, a very large faucet, and you turn the faucet, and it takes one day to turn, and it’s massive … and you turn that, and all of that water goes aimlessly into the Pacific. And if you turned it back, all of that water would come right down here and right into Los Angeles.”

One of the potential problems with the Republican presidential nominee’s plan is that his system for channeling that water from the Pacific Northwest to Southern California doesn’t exist, Oregon’s state climatologist Larry O’Neill told Nexstar’s KOIN.

“There is indeed no such diversion system and none has been seriously proposed that I am aware of,” O’Neill said. 

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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
This just in: Trump demands that NBC bring back Johnny Carson to host The Tonight Show.

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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(September 24, 2024 at 10:34 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(September 24, 2024 at 6:11 am)Belacqua Wrote: This is how the Democrats became the pro-fascist party. You will happily give up your civil rights out of fear of imaginary bots. THEY'RE UNDER YOUR BED!!!

Do you know how many pro-Trump bots I've blocked on Twitter?

Hundreds.

Joined 2016, 6 followers and no original posts or, in some cases, no reposts.

Dozens of accounts like that alone.

Statistically, even without trying to get followers, you should have a reasonable number after 8 years.

The existence of bots is not in question. I get lots of bots on Twitter, and the amount of influence they have on my voting is exactly zero. I have no reason to believe that the US electorate is in any danger from these alleged evil bots. 

How many of these pro-Trump bots are Russian in origin? Isn't it possible that some Americans are also pro-Trump? To what extent do the bots influence the outcome of an election? 

We assume that other countries are trying to interfere in US elections because we know that the US constantly interferes in elections abroad. (See: Victoria Nuland) Also this one: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...dependence

Can you point me to any reputable source which has any evidence that any bots, at any time, have had any influence on an American election? Is the danger so great that we should give up our right to free speech, and let the government control what we are allowed to say on social media? Zuckerberg has already said that the government told him to forbid people on Facebook from making various claims about Covid, some of which turned out to be true, and he regrets having obeyed.

The last time I asked for evidence of Russian influence on elections via Internet, I was pointed to an article about alleged Russians posting on sites for gamers, who were spreading rumors that everybody has already heard a thousand times from other sources: Fox News, Twitter, the usual. The article, among lots and lots of horrible-sounding innuendo, eventually suggested that Putin had "been briefed" about the existence of these gamers. 

So I am more skeptical than most people here. I am looking for evidence from someone other than obvious partisans or known liars.
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Known liars - interesting. Care to elaborate?
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(September 25, 2024 at 6:56 am)Belacqua Wrote: The existence of bots is not in question. I get lots of bots on Twitter, and the amount of influence they have on my voting is exactly zero. I have no reason to believe that the US electorate is in any danger from these alleged evil bots. 

Oooh, an argument from personal opinion.

Also, note that you're using charged language that I never "alleged". Fundamentally dishonest .... but you knew that already.

(September 25, 2024 at 6:56 am)Belacqua Wrote: How many of these pro-Trump bots are Russian in origin? Isn't it possible that some Americans are also pro-Trump? To what extent do the bots influence the outcome of an election? 

No one said all of them are Russian -- or Chinese, for that matter. This is a strawman, but I'm sure you knew that too.

Here's a tip: if you must be dishonest in order to propound your argument, your argument probably sucks. Case in point here.

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(September 25, 2024 at 8:29 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(September 25, 2024 at 6:56 am)Belacqua Wrote: The existence of bots is not in question. I get lots of bots on Twitter, and the amount of influence they have on my voting is exactly zero. I have no reason to believe that the US electorate is in any danger from these alleged evil bots. 

Oooh, an argument from personal opinion.

Also, note that you're using charged language that I never "alleged". Fundamentally dishonest .... but you knew that already.

(September 25, 2024 at 6:56 am)Belacqua Wrote: How many of these pro-Trump bots are Russian in origin? Isn't it possible that some Americans are also pro-Trump? To what extent do the bots influence the outcome of an election? 

No one said all of them are Russian -- or Chinese, for that matter. This is a strawman, but I'm sure you knew that too.

Here's a tip: if you must be dishonest in order to propound your argument, your argument probably sucks. Case in point here.

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