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Hi from Eleazar
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RE: Hi from Eleazar
April 21, 2011 at 12:49 pm (This post was last modified: April 21, 2011 at 1:09 pm by Eleazar.)
(April 21, 2011 at 11:55 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: It isn't the 'atheistic world' alone in which objectivity cannot be found... and objectivity is entirely indistinguishable from subjectivity. If there is an objective state: it is so convoluted that impossible to understand that it would be entirely pointless to try.
Are you just talking about standards of rationality or subjectivity/objectivity in general?
(April 21, 2011 at 12:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You keep saying the same thing over and over but what "evidence" are you using?
Using for what? I don't see the relevance of your question to anything I've said (and I don't appear to be repeating myself...). In fact you've barely said anything of relevance to anything I've said, come to think about it - just "No, I don'ts" and derogatory rhetoric.

Quote:Most people are born into a religious tradition and think that is correct because they have had it crammed down their throats ( or, in the case of catholics...shoved up their asses) from an early age.

So far I see nothing to suggest that you are anything other than a life long xtian believer who somehow thinks that makes your particular superstition true.

If you were born in Baghdad you'd have a towel on your head and be swearing that xtians were the devil!
Well Christianity certainly wasn't crammed down mine...I chose to go to church when I was younger rather than watch the Sunday morning footie, and had plenty of points where I would have called myself agnostic, atheist and just plain apathetic. If anything, it is Western secularism that has been crammed down my throat from every institution and media outlet I've ever come into contact with (and that includes the C of E!). The argument that your culture influences your beliefs cuts in all directions...if you were born in Baghdad what would you be wearing on your head?
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RE: Hi from Eleazar
April 21, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Eleazer Wrote:Are you just talking about standards of rationality or subjectivity/objectivity in general?

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RE: Hi from Eleazar
April 21, 2011 at 5:02 pm
If anything, it is Western secularism that has been crammed down my throat from every institution and media outlet I've ever come into contact with (and that includes the C of E!). The argument that your culture influences your beliefs cuts in all directions...if you were born in Baghdad what would you be wearing on your head?

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RE: Hi from Eleazar
April 21, 2011 at 6:32 pm (This post was last modified: April 21, 2011 at 6:36 pm by Eleazar.)
(April 21, 2011 at 1:31 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote:
Eleazer Wrote:Are you just talking about standards of rationality or subjectivity/objectivity in general?

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Is it objectively true that "no objectivity can be found"? Or is that just "true for you"? Wink
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April 21, 2011 at 7:39 pm
(April 21, 2011 at 6:32 pm)Eleazar Wrote:
(April 21, 2011 at 1:31 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote:
Eleazer Wrote:Are you just talking about standards of rationality or subjectivity/objectivity in general?

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Is it objectively true that "no objectivity can be found"? Or is that just "true for you"? Wink

Only true for everything that possesses a perspective. I've never gotten the answer from the rocks I've asked, so I presume they cannot find it either. Smile
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April 21, 2011 at 8:04 pm (This post was last modified: April 21, 2011 at 8:04 pm by Eleazar.)
(April 21, 2011 at 7:39 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Only true for everything that possesses a perspective. I've never gotten the answer from the rocks I've asked, so I presume they cannot find it either. Smile
Hmm, it's not true from my perspective...
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April 22, 2011 at 12:02 am
(April 21, 2011 at 8:04 pm)Eleazar Wrote:
(April 21, 2011 at 7:39 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Only true for everything that possesses a perspective. I've never gotten the answer from the rocks I've asked, so I presume they cannot find it either. Smile
Hmm, it's not true from my perspective...

From a logical perspective, yours is flawed Smile
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April 22, 2011 at 4:20 am (This post was last modified: April 22, 2011 at 4:20 am by Eleazar.)
(April 22, 2011 at 12:02 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: From a logical perspective, yours is flawed Smile
How petty - trying to apply laws of logic to my beliefs as if they were somehow objective! And who holds this "logical perspective"? The trees I've asked don't seem to know about it! Big Grin
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April 22, 2011 at 5:54 am
(April 22, 2011 at 4:20 am)Eleazar Wrote:
(April 22, 2011 at 12:02 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: From a logical perspective, yours is flawed Smile
How petty - trying to apply laws of logic to my beliefs as if they were somehow objective! And who holds this "logical perspective"? The trees I've asked don't seem to know about it! Big Grin

Ahh...so you are an illogical imbecile....and an xtian twilight lover??? right...mk
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RE: Hi from Eleazar
April 22, 2011 at 6:00 am
(April 22, 2011 at 5:54 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Ahh...so you are an illogical imbecile....and an xtian twilight lover??? right...mk
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