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Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 11, 2024 at 9:36 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:
(December 11, 2024 at 7:33 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Shouldn't you all be just turning the other cheek?

Not at all - neither the Old Testament (quite obviously) nor New Testament ever advocates for allowing evil free reign to do whatever it desires - that is infact a very counter-intuitive expectation.

Perhaps you should read The Sermon on the Mount.  I am sure you can Google it.
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 11, 2024 at 9:33 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:
(December 11, 2024 at 7:41 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Have you actually read the bible? Another irony overload, please do keep these comedy gold moments coming.

I have - I have even asked this question multiple times now, without response; if you want to break that mold, I will appreciate it...

...what do you do to a hostile foreign force that has spent centuries murdering you, robbing from you, stealing your women as sex slaves and children as sacrifices? 

It also was not genocide, as the intent was not to destroy either a national, ethnic, religious, or racial group - it was to destroy a hostile foreign force, the same as GWoT or Ukraine.

Curse god for creating hostile foreign forces, for a start.

Curse god for giving the ability for one person to rape another.

Bet you can think of many mores

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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 11, 2024 at 9:33 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: ...what do you do to a hostile foreign force that has spent centuries murdering you, robbing from you, stealing your women as sex slaves and children as sacrifices? 

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It's like you don't know about the requiermiennto:

Quote:The Requerimiento (Spanish for "requirement" as in "demand") was read to Native Americans to inform them of Spain's rights to conquest. The Spaniards thus considered those who resisted as defying God's plan, and so used Catholic theology to justify their conquest.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Re...ight%20the

It's almost like you don't understand the history of your own people. You're Mexican-American. You have been subjugated.

You're Catholic because your forebears were threatened with death if they did not convert. You've inherited their cowardice.

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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 11, 2024 at 9:33 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: ...what do you do to a hostile foreign force that has spent centuries murdering you, robbing from you, stealing your women as sex slaves and children as sacrifices?
I don't know....maybe commit genocide, ordered and sanctioned by your god?

At least that's what your Bible says... Yeah, genocide seems to be the most reasonable solution.
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 11, 2024 at 9:38 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: The loss of nobility for dictatorship of the masses - and the ability to comprehend concepts like "respect" and "values" - has nearly done as much damage to the Western psyche as the rejection of God and the Liberal Value Plague of 1848 - if you cant figure out why an all-powerful figure deserves better than your attitude and demanding things from him... well, I wish you the best of luck learning going forward.

If having power makes a thing deserving then doesn't The Liberal Conspiracy deserve better than the likes of you running your mouth about it?
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 11, 2024 at 9:38 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: ...damage to the Western psyche as the rejection of God and the Liberal Value Plague of 1848 - if you cant figure out why an all-powerful figure deserves better than your attitude and demanding things from him...
Do you advocate "might makes right"? I suspect you feel free to do so, because of those nasty 1848ish "librul vlaues". If it wasnt for those people, Trump would already be your King and you would be imprisoned for speaking up freely, and the forum wouldnt already be legally banned.

You are using freedoms you are enjoying here thanks to the efforts of those people from 1848. You are using those freedoms provided to you, in order to abandon them, thats what you have been tricked into. People like you have never experienced and therefore seem to need, and possibly deserve, some really oppressive regime, and i am talking about one oppressing YOU not all the ones BUT you (in the slums for example). Maybe that will, one day, make you realize what a fool you are, and tell your grandchildren about how dumb you were, just before they turn around and make exactly the same dumb mistake.

You are the poster child of much of what currently is wrong with the US and many other countries in the world.
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 11, 2024 at 9:33 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:
(December 11, 2024 at 7:41 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Have you actually read the bible? Another irony overload, please do keep these comedy gold moments coming.

I have - I have even asked this question multiple times now, without response; if you want to break that mold, I will appreciate it...

...what do you do to a hostile foreign force that has spent centuries murdering you, robbing from you, stealing your women as sex slaves and children as sacrifices? 

It also was not genocide, as the intent was not to destroy either a national, ethnic, religious, or racial group - it was to destroy a hostile foreign force, the same as GWoT or Ukraine.

Deuteronomy 20:16-17

Quote:"From the cities of these peoples which YHWH your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not let anything that breathes remain alive. You shall surely annihilate them ... just as YHWH your God has commanded you so that they may not teach you to do any of the abominations that they do for their gods, and you thus sin against YHWH your God".

I don't see how that can be interpreted as anything other than a call to genocide.

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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 11, 2024 at 9:33 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:
(December 11, 2024 at 7:41 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Have you actually read the bible? Another irony overload, please do keep these comedy gold moments coming.

I have - 
Then this: 
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choose better friends who don't justify genocide

Was a spectacularly stupid assertion, even by the standards you've set thus far. 
Quote:what do you do to a hostile foreign force that has spent centuries murdering you, robbing from you, stealing your women as sex slaves and children as sacrifices? 
I don't have enough information, why would anyone be attacking me, why is this scenario relevant to your asinine claim, or your complete disregard for human life when it falls out of your narrow bigoted view of when life is of value? You seem to have ignored your absurd arguments and bigotry, and thrown in an irrelevant hypothetical. 
Quote:It also was not genocide, as the intent was not to destroy either a national, ethnic, religious, or racial group - it was to destroy a hostile foreign force, the same as GWoT or Ukraine.



What was not genocide? What has this to do with making the absurd assertion others should not have friends to support genocide, when you're a theists who worships a deity that is depicted in the bible as committing genocide, and encouraging acts of barbaric ethnic cleansing, and sex trafficking female slaves even children, at the direct instruction of the deity depicted?
I realise you may be irony impaired, but others are not of course.
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 11, 2024 at 9:36 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:
(December 11, 2024 at 7:33 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Shouldn't you all be just turning the other cheek?

Not at all - neither the Old Testament (quite obviously) nor New Testament ever advocates for allowing evil free reign to do whatever it desires - 
Yes I am familiar with mental gymnastics theists use to square the circle so to speak, in trying to make the cobbled together books of this archaic collection of superstitions to appear as if they were ever meant to be one cohesive message. You also seem to have missed the irony in identifying such acts as evil only when they are aimed at Christians. Rathe than the truth which is that religions persecute people, their own, others, and anyone in between. The bible is a blueprint for such barbarism and cruelty after all. 

Quote:that is infact a very counter-intuitive expectation.
Blame the source, I didn't write it.
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 11, 2024 at 9:38 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:
(December 11, 2024 at 7:21 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: If your godthing is real why the fuck wouldn’t I be concerned with what it can do for me?

Because presumably you should be more mature as a person, though that is neither guranteed nor in anyone's hands other than your own.

The loss of nobility for dictatorship of the masses - and the ability to comprehend concepts like "respect" and "values" - has nearly done as much damage to the Western psyche as the rejection of God and the Liberal Value Plague of 1848 -
All I see is a disjointed rant with some unevidenced assumptions? You seem to think stringing thinks you hate together in sentence decrying them has some meaning, beyond expressing unevidenced bigotry, who knows why. One can almost visualise you thumping your bible down on a lectern, while ranting from a pulpit, maybe this would go over well to a theistic audience, but I don't find unevidenced rhetoric that impressive. 
Quote: if you cant figure out why an all-powerful figure deserves better than your attitude and demanding things from him... well, I wish you the best of luck learning going forward.

Cheers, but since there is no objective evidence this all powerful figure, imagined by people from an epoch of extreme ignorance and superstition, is real, I will treat the claims accordingly, as of course I must. I mean I don't spend a great deal of time worrying about comic book villains, or that a nefarious mermaid will drag me to a watery grave, and for the same reason.
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