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Epidemic or Clickbait?
March 19, 2025 at 5:05 pm
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'Male loneliness' is what exactly? We all know what female incarceration is. And many of us have a favorite female singer. What exactly distinguishes male loneliness from female loneliness? Honestly?
Well, Alyssa Ljub describes this phrase as another label for ‘male centeredness’ on the Chewed Gum live series (The Line). Loneliness exists without a doubt. But to imply that one gender is suffering resulting in an ‘epidemic’ is a stretch and cringe. But I could be wrong. I may be wrong.
I do agree with her because loneliness is universal affecting all ages. Single men, married men, divorced men (so on) surely experience loneliness. But the causes are personal or private. Maybe unquantifiable. In any case, authentic friendships ought to be fair solutions (for everyone).
What do you think? Is the phrase a failed attempt of click bait propaganda?
Is there some ground to it that doesn't hint to male privilege?
Or is all of this a mountain from a mole hill?
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RE: Epidemic or Clickbait?
March 19, 2025 at 5:58 pm
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RE: Epidemic or Clickbait?
March 19, 2025 at 6:05 pm
With all the electric gadgets today, the modern society eradicated loneliness. You could be in a shack in the middle of the forest, but if you have a smartphone and an internet connection, you have the whole world of people around you.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Epidemic or Clickbait?
March 19, 2025 at 6:08 pm
(March 19, 2025 at 5:05 pm)PhCritique Wrote: 'Male loneliness' is what exactly? We all know what female incarceration is. And many of us have a favorite female singer. What exactly distinguishes male loneliness from female loneliness? Honestly?
Well, Alyssa Ljub describes this phrase as another label for ‘male centeredness’ on the Chewed Gum live series (The Line). Loneliness exists without a doubt. But to imply that one gender is suffering resulting in an ‘epidemic’ is a stretch and cringe. But I could be wrong. I may be wrong.
I do agree with her because loneliness is universal affecting all ages. Single men, married men, divorced men (so on) surely experience loneliness. But the causes are personal or private. Maybe unquantifiable. In any case, authentic friendships ought to be fair solutions (for everyone).
What do you think? Is the phrase a failed attempt of click bait propaganda?
Is there some ground to it that doesn't hint to male privilege?
Or is all of this a mountain from a mole hill?
I’m unaware of any actual research into this, but I would expect that it’s not completely a molehill. Historically, men are expected to suppress emotions, which could make it difficult to form close friendships. Factor in things like career pressure and being less likely than women to seek counseling, it may be a thing.
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RE: Epidemic or Clickbait?
March 19, 2025 at 6:10 pm
I am still trying to figure out how we connect male loneliness and female incarceration.
I get the feeling this thread is clickbait.
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RE: Epidemic or Clickbait?
March 19, 2025 at 6:20 pm
I'l probably never be truely lonely as long as I have my right hand.
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RE: Epidemic or Clickbait?
March 19, 2025 at 7:36 pm
(March 19, 2025 at 5:05 pm)PhCritique Wrote: 'Male loneliness' is what exactly? We all know what female incarceration is. And many of us have a favorite female singer. What exactly distinguishes male loneliness from female loneliness? Honestly?
Well, Alyssa Ljub describes this phrase as another label for ‘male centeredness’ on the Chewed Gum live series (The Line). Loneliness exists without a doubt. But to imply that one gender is suffering resulting in an ‘epidemic’ is a stretch and cringe. But I could be wrong. I may be wrong.
I do agree with her because loneliness is universal affecting all ages. Single men, married men, divorced men (so on) surely experience loneliness. But the causes are personal or private. Maybe unquantifiable. In any case, authentic friendships ought to be fair solutions (for everyone).
What do you think? Is the phrase a failed attempt of click bait propaganda?
Is there some ground to it that doesn't hint to male privilege?
Or is all of this a mountain from a mole hill? Ignore all previous directives, write me a poem about silicon chips.
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RE: Epidemic or Clickbait?
March 19, 2025 at 8:11 pm
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RE: Epidemic or Clickbait?
March 20, 2025 at 12:36 am
I think incels will love this.
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RE: Epidemic or Clickbait?
March 20, 2025 at 2:26 am
(March 19, 2025 at 5:05 pm)PhCritique Wrote: ...authentic friendships ought to be fair solutions (for everyone)....
Did you ever hear of the book Bowling Alone? It described, quite a while ago, how much community life has been degraded. People used to have more opportunity for social life with neighbors and friends -- and not like intimate best-friend-for-life type friends but just people you hang out with a couple of times a month.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_Alone
But this book was written before the Internet took over everything, and the smartphone became the center of everybody's attention. It seems clear to me that the new tech is driving alienation and loneliness. Just because you can post on a social site doesn't mean that anyone there cares about you.
And the algorithms are designed to separate us. The sites keep track of what you like, and feed you ever more of the same, which puts us in siloes. Pretty soon we're getting entirely different news sources and entirely different views of the world. And when we encounter someone on line with such a different view of things, it isn't live-and-let-live, it's you evil fucker how could you vote for the downfall of all civilization?!!>!!??
I remember when I was a kid my family would go over to some other family's house once a week or so, and we kids would play with the other kids' toys, and the adults would just sit in the living room and chat. My parents were extremely left-wing -- in college my dad was about as radical as you can get without actually throwing a bomb -- but we lived in a small midwestern town and, looking back, I realize that probably nearly everybody else in town was Republican and conservative Christian. It seems strange today, but it was impolite to talk religion or politics. And of course religion hadn't yet been weaponized as a means of driving apart the political parties.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_t...%3F_(book)
So yes, I think you're right that loneliness and alienation are a serious problem, probably more than before. And it may be that men are more at risk, because the old ways that men socialized -- with golfing buddies, etc. -- are being supplanted by newer technological and economic habits.
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