Are you fan of "Sinead O Connor"

[Ignatius]

You could argue this highlights the hypocrisy around moralising sexuality or human behavior around it in general. Or whether the Christian argument for "Lust in your heart is a sin" to be a nonsensical argument that Jesus could be wrong about. Rather than immorale behavior around... lets say (Lack of boundaries). Since preaching about morality around this, always means one is gonna act like a hypocrite around it. So why even bother?

She is known for basically calling out sex abuse by Catholic Clergymen, but at the time nobody believed her, until John Paul II decided to say it was true later.

I guess the only way i can think could heal people, would be to heal it over time as (Walker) from Walker Texas Ranger from episode 1+2 talked about. Though the scars will still be there

[The Valkyrie]

Never really was a fan.

She had some good music, though.

[Thumpalumpacus]

lol, Walker. I watched that when I was homesick. It was often shot on location in Fort Worth, my home-town, so I can recognize Houston St or Lancaster Blvd. A lot of Cops, too.

[Rev. Rye]

She is known for basically calling out sex abuse by Catholic Clergymen, but at the time nobody believed her, until John Paul II decided to say it was true later.

Well, yes and no. She just called John Paul II evil, destroyed a picture of him and said “fight the real enemy.” She didn’t even bring up the whole abuse thing until long after people were done listening. You could argue “the public should have known what she was talking about,” but bear in mind, this was on American TV and America isn’t really well known for understanding international context like this. A lot of Yanks back then would have been lucky if their understanding of what was going on in Ireland went beyond The Quiet Man and news reports of IRA bombings, let alone how badly the RCC has been holding Ireland back for over a millennium.

And I’d attribute the confirmation less to John Paul II and more to the many, MANY victims who finally decided to break their silence about the subject.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Huge fan (met her twice). Terribly troubled woman, though.

Boru

[Gwaithmir]

I never knew much about Sinead O'Connor. The only time I saw her perform was when she was the musical guest on Saturday Night Live. I didn't understand why she ripped apart the pope's photo. Harvey Keitel was the host the following week and he displayed the pope's picture which he had taped back together. The audience applauded. I still didn't know what was going on. 

[Fake Messiah]

I admire Sinead O'Connor for her bravery, and that is bravery when you do the right thing (at the right time) without bothering for the consequences.

Someone finally stood up to the bullying of the Catholic Church and not just for raping children but for denigrating women. Church would denigrate not only poor women but also prominent women. For example, when Elizabeth Taylor was making Cleopatra, the Vatican published a hate speech against her that makers of the movie were afraid that Italians would attack her when they were to film scenes with lots of extras that they put snipers on the roofs, but it turned quite the opposite and people cheered her as a hero.

Harvey Keitel was the host the following week and he displayed the pope's picture which he had taped back together. The audience applauded. I still didn't know what was going on. 

That was Joe Pesci, not Keitel.

[Rev. Rye]

I never knew much about Sinead O'Connor. The only time I saw her perform was when she was the musical guest on Saturday Night Live. I didn't understand why she ripped apart the pope's photo. Harvey Keitel was the host the following week and he displayed the pope's picture which he had taped back together. The audience applauded. I still didn't know what was going on. 

And therein lay the problem. She showed the world she was pissed at the RCC, but didn’t explain why.

You know Tim Minchin’s “Pope Song”?




Imagine Tim Minchin doing this song, but A) in a world that hadn’t figured out the Church’s child molestation problems and B) FAILING TO INCLUDE THE PARTS WHERE HE EXPLAINS WHY HE’S SO PISSED AT THE POPE. Add in that the internet isn’t really a thing for most Yanks at that time, so people who figure out “okay, dude’s pissed at the Pope, but why?” Can’t just google “Catholic Church controversies” to find all of The Vatican’s dirty laundry.*

You’re starting to see the problem, right?

* and, yes, I did use that phrase as a reference to the Magdalen laundries, something Sinead herself survived, and was actually still a thing in Ireland at the time.

[Rev. Rye]

As mixed as I am for her infamous SNL stunt (I'd give her 5 points for daring to take on the RCC, but deduct several million for failing to give her Yank audience any context for why), there's one thing I know her from that I enjoy without reservation:





(Side note: I'd highly recommend you give The Butcher Boy a watch, if only because, especially in the second half, it's one of the most batshit insane films ever. You know it's mad when someone as notoriously anti-Catholic as Sinead gets cast as the Virgin Mary and it's easily one of the saner things that happen.)

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

As much as I admire her ballsy SNL stunt, I think it’s kind of a shame that it’s overshadowed nearly everything else about her.

Boru