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Theorem: The Intelligent Self‑Sustaining Universe
#21
RE: Theorem: The Intelligent Self‑Sustaining Universe
(October 11, 2025 at 1:23 am)panpan Wrote: The theorem makes this connection...

Good luck on that Nobel Prize.
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#22
RE: Theorem: The Intelligent Self‑Sustaining Universe
(October 11, 2025 at 1:23 am)panpan Wrote: Logic and science are what supposedly helped man escape the obsessions of superstition. But what is the point if he does not follow logic but only scientific obsessions? For example, the theory of the evolution of species has a scientific basis, as does gravity, but neither the theory nor the physical property explained mathematically can say with certainty where life came from, and the same is true for gravity, which they now try to explain with speculations such as dark energy and dark matter. The theorem makes this connection and shows that, based on logic, there is intelligence within the Universe that maintains both the evolution of species and gravity!

It's not the job of the theory of evolution to say where life comes from. The theory of evolution tells you how to get diversity of different life once there is life. Going from nonlife to life, abiogenesis, is not within the scope of evolution. It is only dishonestly conflated with evolution by people who would like to discredit evolution by creating the illusion that it fails as a theory, when in reality it is overwhelmingly successful.
If you'd like to actually get an inkling of what we know about gravity and dark matter, feel free to ask, I have a PhD in the subject matter. I can tell you one thing, Dark Matter is very probably not a misunderstanding of the theory of gravity, because the evidence points to a cold substance. Again, if you would like to know how we know this, feel free to ask.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#23
RE: Theorem: The Intelligent Self‑Sustaining Universe
(October 11, 2025 at 3:34 pm)Alex K Wrote:
(October 11, 2025 at 1:23 am)panpan Wrote: Logic and science are what supposedly helped man escape the obsessions of superstition. But what is the point if he does not follow logic but only scientific obsessions? For example, the theory of the evolution of species has a scientific basis, as does gravity, but neither the theory nor the physical property explained mathematically can say with certainty where life came from, and the same is true for gravity, which they now try to explain with speculations such as dark energy and dark matter. The theorem makes this connection and shows that, based on logic, there is intelligence within the Universe that maintains both the evolution of species and gravity!

It's not the job of the theory of evolution to say where life comes from. The theory of evolution tells you how to get diversity of different life once there is life. Going from nonlife to life, abiogenesis, is not within the scope of evolution. It is only dishonestly conflated with evolution by people who would like to discredit evolution by creating the illusion that it fails as a theory, when in reality it is overwhelmingly successful.
If you'd like to actually get an inkling of what we know about gravity and dark matter, feel free to ask, I have a PhD in the subject matter. I can tell you one thing, Dark Matter is very probably not a misunderstanding of the theory of gravity, because the evidence points to a cold substance. Again, if you would like to know how we know this, feel free to ask.

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#24
RE: Theorem: The Intelligent Self‑Sustaining Universe
I'm not holding my breath....
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#25
RE: Theorem: The Intelligent Self‑Sustaining Universe
Pan, I already know where life came from. I met the people who did it. They didn't stop there, either. They felt a duty of care and a real affection for me, and I know of those things and the difference between their presence and absence, because of them. In time, I've become more like they were and they've become more like I was, or at least I hope so. I find myself where they were and see them headed to where I came from. We've had as close and as impactful a relationship as anyone can. This, to my mind at least, is a full explanation. A pregnant explanation. It implies and contains all that has happened, every high and low, the public moments, the private moments. It provides me the context for reflection. It shows me where I've succeeded and where I've failed. It suggests the possibility of improvement. It informs me of what I must do now and can never do, or never do again, the shape of a good life and how to live it. It speaks to me of longing, and hope, and continuity. Perhaps most importantly, it offers me clarity. Clarity in mind, clarity of purpose.

Perhaps you believe that an abstract and absentee intelligence vaguely meanders around the periphery of all that life is and means....but so what? What is that to me, what good is your distant and immaterial superstition to my loving and lived explanation?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#26
RE: Theorem: The Intelligent Self‑Sustaining Universe
(October 12, 2025 at 11:11 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Pan, I already know where life came from.  I met the people who did it.  They didn't stop there, either.  They felt a duty of care and a real affection for me, and I know of those things and the difference between their presence and absence, because of them.  In time, I've become more like they were and they've become more like I was, or at least I hope so.  I find myself where they were and see them headed to where I came from.  We've had as close and as impactful a relationship as anyone can.  This, to my mind at least, is a full explanation.  A pregnant explanation.  It implies and contains all that has happened, every high and low, the public moments, the private moments.  It provides me the context for reflection.  It shows me where I've succeeded and where I've failed.  It suggests the possibility of improvement.   It informs me of what I must do now and can never do, or never do again, the shape of a good life and how to live it.  It speaks to me of longing, and hope, and continuity.  Perhaps most importantly, it offers me clarity.  Clarity in mind, clarity of purpose.  

Perhaps you believe that an abstract and absentee intelligence vaguely meanders around the periphery of all that life is and means....but so what?  What is that to me, what good is your distant and immaterial superstition to my loving and lived explanation?

This theorem helps you to better understand yourself and your world. It proves that every form of life has a level of intelligence, which means respect and obligation for beings like us with higher intelligence. The entire ecosystem, as we call it, has a mechanism to maintain its balance and if a species disrupts this balance, then it will suffer the consequences of its imbalance. It is not a matter of good or bad, but a matter of balance, and this is an intelligent being like us must realize. Dinosaurs are the striking example of our natural history, we will follow them if we do not understand the balance mechanism of Nature. Besides, this theorem is part of the
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, if you search the internet you will understand what project I am talking about! Everything is a continuation of someone else like you from your parents, and they, like everything, from something else.
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#27
RE: Theorem: The Intelligent Self‑Sustaining Universe
^We have rules. Please take a few minutes to read them.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#28
RE: Theorem: The Intelligent Self‑Sustaining Universe
(October 19, 2025 at 4:43 am)panpan Wrote: This theorem helps you to better understand yourself and your world.
Don't you think that would be apparent to me, if it were true.  If something that you've said helps me to know myself better?  Rather...say...than helping me understand you better, through the prism of your own private superstitions?  

Quote:It proves that every form of life has a level of intelligence, which means respect and obligation for beings like us with higher intelligence.
Your superstitions don't prove anything, and just as before..I already knew the thing you think they're needed to establish.  

Quote:The entire ecosystem, as we call it, has a mechanism to maintain its balance and if a species disrupts this balance, then it will suffer the consequences of its imbalance. It is not a matter of good or bad, but a matter of balance, and this is an intelligent being like us must realize.
You're talking to a farmer my guy.  In my experience, people who prattle on about the balance of nature and consequences, like a singular force or state of affairs, as though the effects of acting in nature and tilting whatever state of affairs exists towards ourselves is unwanted..unwarranted..or ill advised, do so from within four walls on their little street in the warmth of central heat and air. Snacks in one hand, mouse in the other.

Quote:Dinosaurs are the striking example of our natural history, we will follow them if we do not understand the balance mechanism of Nature. 
I strongly doubt it.  I'm pretty sure, should we go the way of the dinosaurs or the dodos, it's going to look a hell of a lot different in our case.  Do you believe even nuttier shit about dinosaurs than you believe about a ghostly intelligence?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#29
RE: Theorem: The Intelligent Self‑Sustaining Universe
Did the troll yet apologize, for peddling BS about and being completely ignorant of entropy?
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#30
RE: Theorem: The Intelligent Self‑Sustaining Universe
Not knowing something about entropy seems like a sideshow to believing that the kt event was caused because dinosaurs disrupted the balance of nature™.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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