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Evidence for Jesus Christ?
RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
PS - if I feel extra guilty because I also disappointed "God" when I hurt my fellow human, I think there's something wrong with me not feeling the appropriate level of guilt for hurting another human being to begin with.
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RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
Who gives a shit RDK
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(May 4, 2011 at 12:17 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Who gives a shit RDK

Well said, my dear.
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RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
(May 4, 2011 at 11:27 am)Nathanael Wrote: This is news to me! Where did you read about it? I've just done a Google search but nothing is coming up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programm...mary.shtml

Quote:Golan insisted he too was just a front man for another collector. But the authorities were suspicious. He was known to be the owner of the James Ossuary, another extraordinary artefact which had appeared a couple of years earlier. This was a burial box with an inscription linking it to Jesus' brother.

The authorities raided Golan's apartment and recovered both the ossuary and the elusive stone. It was time to establish once and for all if both were genuine. So they set up a committee of linguists and scientists to examine them.

[...]

The geological evidence
The committee turned to geology. Dr Yuval Goren, a geo-archaeologist and head of the Archaeological Institute at Tel-Aviv University, soon found evidence that a team of sophisticated forgers had led the earlier experts astray.

* The patina on the stone had in fact been manufactured artificially
* The charcoal particles which produced the convincing radiocarbon date had been added by hand
* The gold fragments hinting at an ancient fire were a clever final addition

The authorities presented their conclusions. They announced that the stone tablet, and the James Ossuary, were elaborate fakes.

More fakes suspected
When the police took Oded Golan into custody and searched his apartment they discovered a workshop with a range of tools, materials, and half finished 'antiquities'. This was evidence for an operation of a scale far greater than they had suspected.

Investigators have established that collectors around the world have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for artefacts that came through Oded Golan's associates. Dozens of these items have now been examined by Dr Goren, and all have been revealed to be forgeries. Police now suspect that artefacts made by the same team of forgers have found their way into leading museums around the world.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
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RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
(May 4, 2011 at 12:17 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote:
(May 4, 2011 at 12:17 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Who gives a shit RDK

Well said, my dear.

I second that!

Aren't there forum rules about godbotherers who just post incoherent nonsense?
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RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
(May 4, 2011 at 12:21 pm)Napoleon666 Wrote:
(May 4, 2011 at 12:17 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote:
(May 4, 2011 at 12:17 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Who gives a shit RDK

Well said, my dear.

I second that!

Aren't there forum rules about godbotherers who just post incoherent nonsense?

I quite frankly am tired of his one way preaching.

This is an atheist site..we allow Christians on for discussion, not to preach at us as if a preach bot.
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Quote:I quite frankly am tired of his one way preaching.


All of them are pretty much one-trick ponies. I do understand why they avoid religious boards because those people are fucking nauseating but to a greater or lesser degree (depending on the individual) they are all about just sprinkling jesus dust...or allah dust around.

Every so often you have to break out the vacuum and clean up.

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RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
(May 4, 2011 at 12:21 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programm...mary.shtml
This piece is from 2005, and says nothing about Oded Golan being found guilty and put into jail as you claimed.
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RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
(May 4, 2011 at 6:00 pm)Nathanael Wrote: This piece is from 2005, and says nothing about Oded Golan being found guilty and put into jail as you claimed.

My mistake. He was arrested, not convicted. Still, since the question is not whether the Osuary was a fake but who exactly faked it, it's a pretty moot point.

With that point conceded and corrected, harping will commence in 3... 2...
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
(May 4, 2011 at 6:26 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: My mistake. He was arrested, not convicted. Still, since the question is not whether the Osuary was a fake but who exactly faked it, it's a pretty moot point.

With that point conceded and corrected, harping will commence in 3... 2...
I have no interest in harping, I was just interested if there had been any developments! There is still plenty of debate about authenticity the last time I checked; the trial has involved scholars being called to witness for both the prosecution and the defense. Only a few people are really qualified to judge between the various arguments about patina and the such, and I'm certainly not one of them.
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