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Evidence for Jesus Christ?
RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
(May 18, 2011 at 7:56 am)Zen Badger Wrote:
(May 17, 2011 at 7:32 pm)RDK Wrote: Maybe you could consider it stupid to reason that some fallen pillows onto a roadway could mean anything spiritual, but consider this. How often do you encounter any kind of road obstacle at all, much less the very thing which you need for some useful purpose. The odds start to stack up against these kinds of things happening at all.
I was witnessing about these kinds of things happening to an employee of mine whom I was giving a ride home. I noticed a mirror laying on the side of the road. It looked like it might be a match for the one that had fallen off the side of my truck. It was a specialty aftermarket mirror that was missing, and this one was a perfect match. God uses the common everyday occurences, many times when someone is asking about how God answers some prayers.

Well it's nice to know that with all the death, pain and misery in the world that god consistently ignores, he can find the time to leave a mirror on the side of the road for you.

You must be one of his special friends

Exactly. I wonder how theists don't see what's wrong with the picture of a supreme being helping them out by doing stuff like leaving pillows on the side of the road, helping them find their car keys, helping them out with a job interview, etc and at the same time ignoring the thousands of children dying of starvation on a daily basis.

Someone should tell your imaginary friend to get his priorities straight.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
Hey Zen, the car ran without backfiring or any other problems. The real issue with conventional carburization or fuel injection is not that they dont work, but how much fuel that they waste. You should know that liquid fuel can't burn, only that which is vaporized with air can. Carburetors are notorious poor perforformers when it comes to efficiency. Originally, when cars were first built, the carburetor was simply a pan full of fuel that air would pass over to evaporate the gas to run the engine. But because there was not sufficient surface area on the surface of the gas, the vehicle could only reach about 25 miles per hour. Venturi carburetors gave Mercedes Benz the racing edge in the early 1900's by allowing more fuel to mix with air, but not vaporize it entirely. Fuel injection helped with vaporization since the fuel is driven into the air stream in a rationed amount in a finer mist than carburetors could ever do. Direct injection is even more efficient by spraying fuel in at over 1500#'s. Vapor carbs work because only the vaporized fuel reaches the cylinders. The wasted liquid droplets never travel through the exhaust to be discarded. This method does not burn up a motor. It saves gas by not throwing any away. Cooler plugs and some timing adjustment is all it takes to compensate for the increased cylinder temperature. Otherwise everything else stays the same.
If God has answered prayer for me in such a public way as this, it is only because I have asked. I know many,many christians who think that is strange that these things happen for me, but I have met those who have special gifts. I have tried to pray for things which benefit others the most. I am in no way special or extra blessed. I have gone through horrible trials in my life, just like anybody else. I had hoped that the evaporator carb would be a wonderful thing to give away to society. You would think that such a gift would be welcomed by everyone. But, oil companies and car builders have been working for years to get us to believe that high mileage cars are difficult to build. Not true!
I can not order God to heal all of the problems on this planet. These trials were designed to be here for a purpose that few people understand. I have already shared the reasons for all these things. I know that we are dealing with two sides (good an evil) which we can choose, and two who are presenting their cases before us. We can choose to love, and God can heal things, or we can choose to hate, and this gives evil the chance to continue destroying our world. God has allowed us to get our hands dirty here so that He can show us how He still can love us anyway. He still accepts us with nothing more than our genuine "I"m Sorry".
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RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
(May 18, 2011 at 11:05 am)RDK Wrote: These trials were designed to be here for a purpose that few people understand.

But it's still right though eh? Even though we don't understand we should just blindly believe 'god' is doing what is in our best interests?
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RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
Quote:You must be one of his special friends


Yeah...in the same context as "special olympics!"
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RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
I am not expecting anyone to believe blindly. The evidences which you seek can be had by asking. The personal helps that God can show you is how to understand yourself. Many people are unaware what drives them to do what they do. Some search for money or power. Some want to be the most intelligent, , some the most strong or attractive or most accomplished at some job. We all want recognition or respect and we do all manner of things to obtain them. When God visits He will help you to understand why you are the way that you are. He will give you endurance and help with the trials of life. Those personal insights are the core of faith in someone you don't see, but with whom you can definitely feel. The difficult thing for believers to do is explain these monumental personal changes that come with faith(trust). Most people will try to identify their personal miracles with the brand of faith that they choose. Each person with a religion will try to associate their experiences with those of which they are familiar and with what is most common to them. My original reasons that I did not want any part of God were the very same issues that many of you have here. If God loves us, why doesn't He take care of business down here? Why is Bible interpretation so scrambled and confusing. If I had not encountered God by the challenge to Him that I did, I imagine that I might still be atheist too. Since my experiences were good news to me, I have wanted to share them, even if they seem stupid or unreasonable. If I am wrong in my assertions here, you will gain nothing. But if I am right, you can have another dimension open up to you that will expand your understanding of things. All you have to do is ask. You will be surprised if you really need to know!
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RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
(May 18, 2011 at 11:05 am)RDK Wrote: Hey Zen, the car ran without backfiring or any other problems. The real issue with conventional carburization or fuel injection is not that they dont work, but how much fuel that they waste. You should know that liquid fuel can't burn, only that which is vaporized with air can. Carburetors are notorious poor perforformers when it comes to efficiency. Originally, when cars were first built, the carburetor was simply a pan full of fuel that air would pass over to evaporate the gas to run the engine. But because there was not sufficient surface area on the surface of the gas, the vehicle could only reach about 25 miles per hour. Venturi carburetors gave Mercedes Benz the racing edge in the early 1900's by allowing more fuel to mix with air, but not vaporize it entirely. Fuel injection helped with vaporization since the fuel is driven into the air stream in a rationed amount in a finer mist than carburetors could ever do. Direct injection is even more efficient by spraying fuel in at over 1500#'s. Vapor carbs work because only the vaporized fuel reaches the cylinders. The wasted liquid droplets never travel through the exhaust to be discarded. This method does not burn up a motor. It saves gas by not throwing any away. Cooler plugs and some timing adjustment is all it takes to compensate for the increased cylinder temperature. Otherwise everything else stays the same.
If God has answered prayer for me in such a public way as this, it is only because I have asked. I know many,many christians who think that is strange that these things happen for me, but I have met those who have special gifts. I have tried to pray for things which benefit others the most. I am in no way special or extra blessed. I have gone through horrible trials in my life, just like anybody else. I had hoped that the evaporator carb would be a wonderful thing to give away to society. You would think that such a gift would be welcomed by everyone. But, oil companies and car builders have been working for years to get us to believe that high mileage cars are difficult to build. Not true!
I can not order God to heal all of the problems on this planet. These trials were designed to be here for a purpose that few people understand. I have already shared the reasons for all these things. I know that we are dealing with two sides (good an evil) which we can choose, and two who are presenting their cases before us. We can choose to love, and God can heal things, or we can choose to hate, and this gives evil the chance to continue destroying our world. God has allowed us to get our hands dirty here so that He can show us how He still can love us anyway. He still accepts us with nothing more than our genuine "I"m Sorry".

Well, that explains how those NASCAR boys get 850 HP out of a normally aspirated 358 CI push rod engine with only an 850 CFM carburetor. God done it. No wonder they’re praying all the time.
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RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
Was the emphasis on poor performance? That 850hp motor could perform that stunt more efficiently with fuel injection, more mileage from the same amount of gas. The cars used have always been carbureted. Carburetors can be powerfull, just not as efficient.
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RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
Maybe this should be started as a new thread, but I think that something miraculous should remain under the evidence for Jesus theme. I had a little vine plant that I set into a glass jar with only water in it for the plant to grow. It didn't take long before the vines began to run down the sides of that jar. It seems like nothing special had happened here, but I began to ponder, Where did the plant get all of that material from which to build itself? The water is just hydrogen and oxygen mixed togeather. That would account for the water in the stems and leaves, but where did all of the solids come from. I dont think that the light coming from the lamp offered any solids, maybe just energy for the plant to do the synthesis of plant product. So where does the material actually come from? Is that plant sucking in dust and making plant stuff with it. I didn't even notice that plants had the ability as dust suckers to begin with. They do breathe through small holes on the undersides of their leaves, but I had no idea that I had thismuch dust in my house. This little plant was gaining volume way faster than the dust entering the room. What else is in light other than various forms of radiation? That little seedling is gaining ground in my room. Someone must be putting somthing in the water.
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You have no brain and yet you speak in semi-acceptable sentences. That is miraculous and must be accepted as conclusive evidence for Jesus. After all, where would the thought energy that power your trolls come from, there being nothing in the part of you where a normal person has his brain. Someone (HINT! HINT! Jesus!) must have put the thoughts there!
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RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
Come on Chuck, just answer the questions. I am not affected by your childish insults. If I didn't have something important to share, I would not be here.
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