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RE: Silly Creationist
June 30, 2011 at 5:13 pm
(June 30, 2011 at 5:07 pm)Shell B Wrote:
That’s funny, I think all the same about you and your debating abilities. Even if I had dodged points, which I do not agree I have, how does that justify the atheists here dodging this point? They asked for me to present my argument, I did; now they will not address it and you are backing them up on this?
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RE: Silly Creationist
June 30, 2011 at 5:15 pm
(This post was last modified: June 30, 2011 at 5:17 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
You know what, maybe you posted an argument and I missed it in the middle of the word salad. It's a possibility. A few pages ago I would have dove in looking for it. At this point, not so much. At this point, I'm fairly certain, that for you, God is a word that stands in for "I don't know". There's nothing to argue with.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Silly Creationist
June 30, 2011 at 5:19 pm
(June 30, 2011 at 5:13 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: They asked for me to present my argument, I did; now they will not address it and you are backing them up on this?
Yep. Only the most persistent of debaters could get through more than three pages with you. Refine your arguments and stay on point. That is the only advice I can give you to keep people's attention longer, but I know you will just ignore it.
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RE: Silly Creationist
June 30, 2011 at 5:20 pm
(This post was last modified: June 30, 2011 at 5:23 pm by Statler Waldorf.)
(June 30, 2011 at 5:15 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You know what, maybe you posted an argument and I missed it in the middle of the word salad. It's a possibility. A few pages ago I would have dove in looking for it. At this point, not so much. At this point, I'm fairly certain, that for you, God is a word that stands in for "I don't know". There's nothing to argue with.
Well two other atheists recognized, comprehended, and addressed the argument. What's your excuse for not being able to keep up?
(June 30, 2011 at 5:19 pm)Shell B Wrote:
Still sticking up for them I see. I was asked to give an argument, I did. The Christian worldview is the only worldview that can account for the preconditions of knowledge. It's a simple argument, and yet they are running from it, why?
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RE: Silly Creationist
June 30, 2011 at 5:27 pm
So, precondition of knowledge, ergo god. that about it?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Silly Creationist
June 30, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Quote:You have any actual evidence that I am lying?
You have any actual evidence that you're not?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Silly Creationist
June 30, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Oh no. You asked that.
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RE: Silly Creationist
June 30, 2011 at 5:33 pm
(June 30, 2011 at 5:28 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Quote:You have any actual evidence that I am lying?
You have any actual evidence that you're not?
What's evidence?
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RE: Silly Creationist
June 30, 2011 at 5:33 pm
(June 30, 2011 at 5:20 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Still sticking up for them I see. I was asked to give an argument, I did. The Christian worldview is the only worldview that can account for the preconditions of knowledge. It's a simple argument, and yet they are running from it, why?
While we are on this, how is it that ONLY the christian worldview accounts for this-not the Judaic one, the Muslim one, the Hindu one, or any number of other theistic worldviews? You really do need to make a larger argument to show this in any conclusive sense.
Oh no. I said that.
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RE: Silly Creationist
June 30, 2011 at 5:36 pm
(June 30, 2011 at 5:27 pm)Rhythm Wrote: So, precondition of knowledge, ergo god. that about it?
No, ethics, basic reliability of the senses, basic reliability of memory, laws of logic, uniformity in nature, the future resembling the past. Your worldview cannot give sufficient justification for these assumptions, and yet they are completely necessary in order to obtain any knowledge and conduct science. The Christian worldview therefore becomes the only correct worldview because of the impossibility of the contrary.
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