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This fellow makes a lot of good points.
June 29, 2011 at 4:54 pm
http://www.truth-out.org/print/3636
Quote:America's long, long war in Afghanistan has drained more than 1,500 precious lives and a trillion dollars from our country. But, finally, this enormous outlay paid off this year with the capture and killing of that al-Qaida demon, Osama bin Laden, who attacked America and was the reason our military went into Afghanistan.
Oh, wait -- Osama wasn't in Afghanistan, was he? He was comfortably ensconced in an urban compound in Pakistan, whose leaders are supposedly our allies in the bloody Afghan War. And it wasn't the war effort that got bin Laden, it was old-time spy work, culminating in a raid involving a small team of Navy Seals, a dog and two helicopters.
So why have two presidents and a decade of Congress dumped so many lives and so much money into a country that poses no threat to us? Afghanistan is an impoverished, anarchic, largely illiterate land that's split into ancient tribal factions and innumerable fiefdoms controlled by rival warlords. They have no desire or ability to attack us, some 8,000 miles away.
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June 29, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Americans always need a scapegoat to extract revenge on. Did anyone really believe the cowboy in the white house would not attack somebody to make this country think he was actually doing something in response to 9/11? Americans were so filled with blood thirst after that I don't think most people really cared who we invaded.
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June 29, 2011 at 6:32 pm
"1,500 precious lives"?
I disagree with him already.
It's all nonsense though.
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June 29, 2011 at 7:13 pm
(June 29, 2011 at 6:25 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote: Americans always need a scapegoat to extract revenge on. Did anyone really believe the cowboy in the white house would not attack somebody to make this country think he was actually doing something in response to 9/11? Americans were so filled with blood thirst after that I don't think most people really cared who we invaded.
Yeah...as long as they wore towels on their heads.
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June 29, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Soldiers lives are very precious. It costs a fair amount of money to recruit, train, house, cloth, and feed them.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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June 29, 2011 at 11:10 pm
But apparently aren't valuable to merit proper body armor until Rumsfeld was kicked out.
Gods, the military hated that piece of shit.
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June 29, 2011 at 11:11 pm
(This post was last modified: June 29, 2011 at 11:12 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
probably failed the cost-benefit analysis.
IE the guy making the decision said, "Man these things cost alot, and they don't benefit me in any way!"
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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June 29, 2011 at 11:33 pm
(June 29, 2011 at 6:32 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: "1,500 precious lives"?
I disagree with him already.
It's all nonsense though.
Agree with you lives are not precious they are priceless
And yes it's nonsense everybody knows why we are there besides the selfless reasons of spreading this infestation called the west, and it's because afghanistan is rich in minerals, essentially NATO is doing it for the contracts and probably something to do with Iran
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June 30, 2011 at 2:17 am
(June 29, 2011 at 11:33 pm)Ashendant Wrote: Agree with you lives are not precious they are priceless
Few hundred dollars each, actually. I'm Meritocratic: I put a price on life. And it usually isn't all that much.
Quote:And yes it's nonsense everybody knows why we are there besides the selfless reasons of spreading this infestation called the west, and it's because afghanistan is rich in minerals, essentially NATO is doing it for the contracts and probably something to do with Iran
Afghanistan is rich in.... anything? 0.o
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June 30, 2011 at 2:55 am
Afghanistan is a useless, nearly resource-less place. The only purpose of invading is to feed the military-industrial complex, economically speaking.
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