What do Atheists believe the Bible as?

[Judas BentHer]

That's why when some of these bozos show up here and cite some "authority" I always check them out. In most cases you find they have degrees in theology or divinity or marketing or they went to a non-accredited school or, worse, a diploma mill which caters to creationist shitheads.

Nothing can be accepted at face value when dealing with the religious. They lie a lot.

True. And first and foremost to themselves. So is it any wonder everyone else doesn't stand a chance? While the push remains converting the world to their mythology.

You know what's really frightening? (Now dead and yet surprised) Jerry Falwell's Liberty University has a law school!

[Violet]

Whatever you can live with dear, so as to defend your inclination, as you mentioned earlier, toward criminality (Piracy).

I'm an anarchist, hon. My obeying your rules is only so long as they are heading parallel to me. Why I made my library legit is out of respect for the artists... not out of respect for the law.

What is actually fucked is that given that you think I'd take you seriously and hold you credible, when you proffer a defense of criminality that amounts to saying, it's not all that bad.

Criminality is not all that bad. Infact, it can even be very very good. Which are, of course, value judgements that you do not seem to hold in any similar avenue to me.

Is the law good because it is law? Seems you think so.

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Oh my, how patently optimistic.
I wasn't aware she, and now you, were invested in making legitimate points. Rather, without the juvenile name calling and personal attacks, as she demonstrates herself more apt to afford, and now you in her defense, I doubt very much it would be worth my while to pursue a serious conversation.

It's a personal attack to denote your understanding of criminals as being fucked? I suppose it's also a personal attack to call the ketchup in my fridge 'outdated' or 'moldy'. I'm going to be offended now. I mean, look at all the personal attacks! I'm crying now.



It is, however, worth my while to mock nonsense openly.

The mindless platitudes you regurgitate as an accusation toward myself, are demonstrated repeatedly on almost a thread by thread basis by Aerzia. And you do yourself no great service in supporting everything she's had to say about criminality, interjecting your own observations, while concluding with the same asinine personal jab as is indicative of her nature.

I wonder if you know what some of these words mean. It fascinates me... your sense of self-rightousness that is. One does themselves no great service for supporting an argument with their own observations regarding its correctness?

Reasonable people know common sense, morality and decency can never be legislated. A personal moral code exists in the individual, or it does not. And while morality is not universal, that fact about it is.

Criminality exists in varying degree's and while someone who lies in order to have replaced 8 pieces of chicken they'd actually received and paid for earlier, only to later return to the store to lie and say they were absent in the order, as I saw happen recently at the local grocery, may be considered a liar and a thief, because the Deli staff knew full well they'd sold him a 16 piece bucket, that lie, that theft of 8 free pieces that it afforded, may have fed his family for a little longer.

Was his lie an illicit act? By the book, yes. If he was feeding his family the only way he could, having paid as much as he could but not having enough to afford more, perhaps not.

It all comes down to who we are and what we can live with.

However, while wasting my breath to indulge you with even that little bit, because a serious discourse is not your intent, when someone says my idea of criminality is fucked when they're a criminal, I don't give a care what she or you in her defense think of my taking issue with it.

Who better than a criminal to tell you a criminal's motivations? I'm certainly not about to ask a man about a woman's motivations, or a lawyer about a carpenter's.

[reverendjeremiah]

What do Atheists believe the Bible as?

useless
boring
maniacal
tyranical
bigoted
misogynistic
pro-slavery
Anti-freethought
superstitious
manipulative
delusional
"sometimes friendly"
historical revisionistic
....

I can keep going here.....

[Judas BentHer]

I can keep going here.....

You forgot, plagiarized. (Septuagint)
The list! The list! Like the bunny it just keeps going.

[jason56]

^ I would have noted ignorance.

It's a way of acknowledging their crimes but still giving them an exuse.

[Minimalist]

Jerry Falwell's Liberty University has a law school!

I'd be more surprised if they had a science department.


Unless its just creationist horseshit...that would fit.

[Anomalocaris]

Jerry Falwell's Liberty University has a law school!

I'd be more surprised if they had a science department.


Unless its just creationist horseshit...that would fit.

Don't forget the very similar Oral Roberts University also had a law department, and it was good enough to produce an alumni who would go on to heighten the standard of American political discouse in a manner only Michelle Bachmann could.

As to the word University itself, fundamentalist yokels believe so long as they append the word University to whatever junk they try to push, the junk automatically becomes respectable. Amongst the pentacostals there is a "financial peace university" which teaches such stuff as how to default on your housing mortgage while staving off eviction so you can render what is due onto banks onto god instead. They even issue a diploma certifying your successful matriculation in the art of defrauding for god. The same church where that is popular also offers other "Universities", including "University of the Supernatural", and "University of Interpreting your dreams".

[reverendjeremiah]

^ I would have noted ignorance.

It's a way of acknowledging their crimes but still giving them an exuse.

ignorance
racist
plagaristic
not well written compared to other examples of western literature
Stark contrast between the 4 gospels and Pauls letters
Obvious opiate drug influenced book of Revelations
Obvious Greek/Roman influence of Judaism on the New Testament
A popular theism in the presence of much better written theistic literature
poorly thought out
Requiring a dominative influence to continue its memetic existence


...I can keep going....

[Autumnlicious]

Oh my, how patently optimistic.
I wasn't aware she, and now you, were invested in making legitimate points. Rather, without the juvenile name calling and personal attacks, as she demonstrates herself more apt to afford, and now you in her defense, I doubt very much it would be worth my while to pursue a serious conversation.

Alrighty then Princess, you may retreat and not grace us with your presence.

The mindless platitudes you regurgitate as an accusation toward myself, are demonstrated repeatedly on almost a thread by thread basis by Aerzia. And you do yourself no great service in supporting everything she's had to say about criminality, interjecting your own observations, while concluding with the same asinine personal jab as is indicative of her nature.

Wait, so I'm not allowed to put forth my interpretation of what another has written to demonstrate my understanding and support thereof?

And the "she did it first" mentality will not go far here.

Reasonable people know common sense, morality and decency can never be legislated. A personal moral code exists in the individual, or it does not. And while morality is not universal, that fact about it is.

Reasonable people also know that unreasonable people exist, and we have legislation to deal with such. We also have legislation to deal with gray areas and failures of 'reasonable' people.

I am a bit stopped by the individual's moral code. So fucking what?

There are quite a few 'moral' people who think that abortion is infanticide and will murder abortion doctors in cold blood.

All you've managed to do is state 'morality exists in certain beings'. Big whoop.

It all comes down to who we are and what we can live with.

Once you bring in relativism, a lot of the 'moral' things you've mentioned fly out a window.

However, while wasting my breath to indulge you with even that little bit, because a serious discourse is not your intent, when someone says my idea of criminality is fucked when they're a criminal, I don't give a care what she or you in her defense think of my taking issue with it.

See below the first quote.