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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider :
July 23, 2011 at 2:57 am
(July 23, 2011 at 2:49 am)GodIsRealOrNothingMakesSince Wrote: (July 23, 2011 at 2:43 am)TheAtheistTroll Wrote: I assume your lack of an ability at the English language is the reason why we've been duped into thinking you've made no actual points yet, then? Oh and guess what? Yet another post that has NO ties to the actual post and is just inadvertently insulting me on grammer. You guys are really showing your true colors and intelligence and willingness to have an intellectual collective discussion free of meaningless bullcrap that is not contructive....
Well perhaps you should make some actual points instead of attacking a false version of atheism that you've made up and stop with the whole 'nothing can't come from nothing yet God can come from nothing because God INVENTED nothing, of course!' thing.
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider :
July 23, 2011 at 3:39 am
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Quote:Kudos to you sir. You discussed the post unlike the others. Also Kudos on admitting that we dont know all yet and not being like many other atheist I'm sure to get that believe there is solid evidence that makes Atheism a fact of some kind.
OH for goodness sake,here we go yet AGAIN;
Atheist means only a lack of belief in god(s) NOTHING ELSE IS IMPLIED OR MAY BE INFERRED. The term comes from the Greek word 'atheos'; a=without, theos=God.
Atheism is NOT; a religion,a philosophy, a political ideology,a system of ethics, a world view ,a movement or a club.
I call myself 'an agnostic atheist'. I assert "I do not believe in gods due to lack of credible evidence" I do not claim to KNOW. You may have noticed that I make no claims of any kind.That means I have no burden of proof,I need prove exactly nothing.That honour belongs 100% to you,as the person making the claims.
I'm also a skeptic (look it up) My atheism is one of the results of my skepticism, not the cause of any other life position.
My position: You believe in God(s)? How wonderful for you!(and I mean that sincerely).You would like me to share your beliefs? No problem;simply show me your evidence to support your claims.If you are unable to do that ,please stop wasting my time and fuck off.
That nobody in recorded history has so far managed to prove or falsify the existence of God (s) is not my problem,it merely means I'm unable believe.
Now I don't mean to be unkind in mentioning the bleedin' obvious,but you have joined an atheist discussion forum. Explicit is the idea that you will make some attempt at civilised conversation, without preaching or attacking our members. If you are unable to comply ,you will be banned. Overall, on this,and most atheist forums,theists are treated with far more respect and acceptance than atheists tend to be on theist forums of any kind.
To be honest, I do not agree with our tolerant policy. If I had my way,theists would be banned on sight,as atheists usually are on theist sites. We owe you nothing.
Bored now.I have nothing further to say to you until I notice a significant change in the content and general attitude of your posts.
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider :
July 23, 2011 at 3:42 am
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider :
July 23, 2011 at 3:45 am
(July 23, 2011 at 3:42 am)theVOID Wrote: Pad
Oh, how kind.
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider :
July 23, 2011 at 3:49 am
(July 23, 2011 at 2:49 am)GodIsRealOrNothingMakesSince Wrote: Oh and guess what? Yet another post that has NO ties to the actual post and is just inadvertently insulting me on grammer. You guys are really showing your true colors and intelligence and willingness to have an intellectual collective discussion free of meaningless bullcrap that is not contructive....
It's grammar. And constructive.
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider :
July 23, 2011 at 4:19 am
(July 23, 2011 at 12:47 am)GodIsRealOrNothingMakesSince Wrote: Atheism: The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.
Makes perfect since.
You come onto an atheist forum, populated mainly by atheists, your first ever post is a fatuous quote directly intended to insult the atheist position and then you have the nerve to complain that people here are insulting you and not engaging in proper debate.
Makes perfect sense.
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider :
July 23, 2011 at 4:59 am
So if everything has to come from somewhere where did god come from?
God is not the answer its an even bigger and stupider question.
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider :
July 23, 2011 at 11:27 am
First of all, more kudos to you, TheAtheistTroll. You the troll-MAN!
".. and stop with the whole 'nothing can't come from nothing yet God can come from nothing because God INVENTED nothing, of course!' thing."
(Gotta give credit where credit is due, had me lol'ing.)
But really, GodIsRealOrNothingMakesSince, why are you here? Are you looking for converts? If so, I don't see where you're getting any traction. I don't think so. I suspect you just prefer to hear the doubts and objections that arise naturally in any thinking person when coerced by ones community to believe the absurd. You would like for those doubts and objections to be 'out there' so that you can go on feeling pure as you do battle with them. I don't really have any strong desire to 'convert' you or free you from the delusion. I have another brother who has become a mormon and I'm convinced he'd be in a padded room or one with bars without it. So if avoiding "nothing making sense" is so important to you, try a stronger dose of the kool aid. (Do you have a white shirt, a tie and a bike?) However it may be time for you to decide if you are ready for the world as you find it rather than the one your community works so hard to conjure, the one you've decided makes sense. You'll have to decide.
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider :
July 23, 2011 at 11:34 am
You would think that a person would familiarize themselves with reality before arguing against it. When observations do not match the model it is nearly always the fault of the model. Most of our observations of the world around us do not support the christian concept of god, they do support things like "the big bang", abiogenesis, and evolution. Refine your model christian, its showing it's age.
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider :
July 23, 2011 at 11:37 am
(July 23, 2011 at 12:47 am)GodIsRealOrNothingMakesSince Wrote: Atheism: The belief
I don't even have to read on after that because just these 2 words in your definition give away that your definition is wrong.
Atheism is not a belief, it is a disbelief, and a disbelief of just one claim, the existence of gods. Nothing else. Anything else you want to read into atheism is just your prejudice, not a matter of fact.
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