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Poll: Are there any problems with atheism?
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There are no problems with atheism
82.76%
24 82.76%
There are some problems with atheism
17.24%
5 17.24%
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No problems with atheism then...
#11
RE: No problems with atheism then...
(August 18, 2011 at 4:52 pm)Godnose Wrote: A problem is something that exists in the mind. So if you say it is a problem then it is a problem.
Unless you're explicitly talking about mental health problems, then no.

My late-aunt's terminal cancer was not a problem that existed only in her mind.
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#12
RE: No problems with atheism then...
(August 18, 2011 at 4:58 pm)Shell B Wrote:
(August 18, 2011 at 4:53 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(August 18, 2011 at 4:48 pm)Rayaan Wrote: There is no evidence that atheism is correct - along with theism - and that's a bit of a problem actually, isn't it?

Only a problem for those that claim something exists.

Exactly, just because a ton of people say there is some god doesn't make that true, either, nor is it evidence.

It would be rather nice if people would at least try to make some attempt to address the topic of the thread rather than merely bicker about irrelevancies such as evidence for and against religion, which is a topic more than amply covered elsewhere.
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#13
RE: No problems with atheism then...
I'm not voting in the poll for two reasons.

1. The question is stupid. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in the existence of deities. The only problem is the way society (especially in the U.S.) oppresses/suppresses the expression of that lack of belief. That is not a problem with atheism. It is a problem with religious bigotry.

2. I strongly suspect that "Godnose" was once known as "Godhead".
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#14
RE: No problems with atheism then...
(August 18, 2011 at 5:03 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
(August 18, 2011 at 4:52 pm)Godnose Wrote: A problem is something that exists in the mind. So if you say it is a problem then it is a problem.
Unless you're explicitly talking about mental health problems, then no.

My late-aunt's terminal cancer was not a problem that existed only in her mind.

The cancer was a condition. The problem was how to deal with it.
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#15
RE: No problems with atheism then...
(August 18, 2011 at 5:03 pm)Godnose Wrote: It would be rather nice if people would at least try to make some attempt to address the topic of the thread rather than merely bicker about irrelevancies such as evidence for and against religion, which is a topic more than amply covered elsewhere.

Happy you could interject with your opinion. My response was in support of an argument that that there is only a problem with atheism for those who are not atheists, which is directly in line with your topic. You can lash out for no reason, if you want, though.
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#16
RE: No problems with atheism then...
I voted that there a some problems in atheism. I think I made it pretty clear what those problems were.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#17
RE: No problems with atheism then...
(August 18, 2011 at 5:05 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: I'm not voting in the poll for two reasons.

1. The question is stupid. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in the existence of deities. The only problem is the way society (especially in the U.S.) oppresses/suppresses the expression of that lack of belief. That is not a problem with atheism. It is a problem with religious bigotry.

You are entitled to your opinion. But if religious bigotry is the only is the only problem that it faces, is it not a rather sad reflection upon the atheist community that it has thus far managed so ineffectively to extend itself?

Quote:2. I strongly suspect that "Godnose" was once known as "Godhead".

Not so far as I know. Of course, it may not always be possible for me to be aware of any particular name that I might be known by. As to why that should affect your decision as to whether to vote, that is entirely beyond my comprehension.



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#18
RE: No problems with atheism then...
(August 18, 2011 at 5:16 pm)Godnose Wrote: You are entitled to your opinion. But if religious bigotry is the only is the only problem that it faces, is it not a rather sad reflection upon the atheist community that it has managed so ineffectively to extend itself?

To be fair, theists had a head start, and we have laws against the kind of tactics that they employed.

I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#19
RE: No problems with atheism then...
(August 18, 2011 at 5:16 pm)Godnose Wrote: You are entitled to your opinion. But if religious bigotry is the only is the only problem that it faces, is it not a rather sad reflection upon the atheist community that it has thus far managed so ineffectively to extend itself?

Are you aware of how silly that sounds? A. No one mentioned bigotry. The comment was that religious people are the only ones who have problems with atheism, for obvious reasons. It doesn't mean they have problems with atheists themselves, though many do. B. You think that atheism can only "extend itself" by having problems and that should reflect on the atheist community?


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#20
RE: No problems with atheism then...
Believe Paul used the word bigotry.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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