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RE: PP Rant- Christians, Stop Spreading LIES
October 11, 2011 at 8:30 am
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(October 11, 2011 at 8:22 am)aleialoura Wrote: Fucking good. I hope the name drives those assholes crazy till the rapture. Fuck em, and I'll see their daughters next Tuesday. Says it all really.
(October 11, 2011 at 8:11 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: fr0d0, my dear, please...Maybe I'm just more stupid than usual this morning but can you try to rephrase yourself so I understand where the bias is? "Abortion is something people who don't plan for parenthood get when they feel there is no other option. Be it for economical reasons, medical, religious, shame, or selfishness, it is always going to happen whether law permits, or stigma persists."
If you believe that a person begins at conception, then the above statement contains some abhorrent suggestions.
The name of the organisation emphasises this. Al is emphasising the stigma and saying it's all good to her.
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RE: PP Rant- Christians, Stop Spreading LIES
October 11, 2011 at 8:46 am
(October 11, 2011 at 8:05 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Sorry Zen I can't see your point. Of course it's used by Christians... there's no other option! Like the minister in the victorian church - you'd say anything he wanted you to say as long as he gave you the food. Can you not see a problem with that?
A problem with the christians who rail against PP and call for it to be shut down and threaten the safety of the staff who work there for being "baby killers"???
Until such a time as they need to use it themselves.
Of course I have a probelm with that.
What made you think I didn't?
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RE: PP Rant- Christians, Stop Spreading LIES
October 11, 2011 at 8:52 am
Oh yayy! I get to use scripture for argument.
Hosea 9:16- Yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.
Why?
Hosea 9:17- My God will cast them away, because they did not hearken unto him: and they shall be wanderers among the nations.
Barf.
What an abhorrent suggestion.
There are a lot more, but why do you need more?
I'm saying I don't give a fuck if people don't like the name of the clinic that helps people with so much. If they are that ignorant, I obviously don't care what they think.
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RE: PP Rant- Christians, Stop Spreading LIES
October 11, 2011 at 8:59 am
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(October 11, 2011 at 8:46 am)Zen Badger Wrote: A problem with the christians who rail against PP and call for it to be shut down and threaten the safety of the staff who work there for being "baby killers"???
Until such a time as they need to use it themselves.
Of course I have a probelm with that.
What made you think I didn't? Ah right, sorry - different subject. Yes I have a problem with bigots too.
(October 11, 2011 at 8:52 am)aleialoura Wrote:
Cherry picking FTW!
A flawed service is the best we have. Less political and religious point scoring on both sides would help everybody I think.
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RE: PP Rant- Christians, Stop Spreading LIES
October 11, 2011 at 9:03 am
Except those whose names begin with J and end in esus.
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RE: PP Rant- Christians, Stop Spreading LIES
October 11, 2011 at 9:06 am
Josephesus?
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RE: PP Rant- Christians, Stop Spreading LIES
October 11, 2011 at 9:09 am
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To me the words "planned parenthood" (ignoring the organisation with the name) would mean that person planned, got ready for, and got everything set up, for the baby. If the conception itself was unplanned the parent/s, once they realised a baby was on the way, starting getting ready.
Unplanned parenthood would mean it was either an accident or no/little planning or prepreparation was involved
'planned parenthood', the name, would actually imply that there ISN'T an abortion. Parenthood by definition "The state of being a parent", implies that there IS a baby, that the person IS a parent.
Associations with abortions have nothing to do with the organisation's name in my opinion.
On abortions, I've yet to determine where I think the acceptable (In an ordinary case) cutoff time/limit is, I would put it down to neural development, anyone got a good flowchart of brain development?
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RE: PP Rant- Christians, Stop Spreading LIES
October 11, 2011 at 9:10 am
Frodo, I assure you the whole chapter where I got those two verses is entirely abhorrent.
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RE: PP Rant- Christians, Stop Spreading LIES
October 11, 2011 at 9:15 am
So...if I get this right...you're arguing about the name?
Because the abortions would have to happen with the least frequency if people concentrated on the contraceptive and information distribution.
I'm failing to see how the idea of planning parenthood emphasizes abhorrent ideas, whatever you believe about conception, my love. I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm just trying to twist my head in the same direction as yours.
Alei, fr0d0 doesn't subscribe very much to organized religion and as such Bible verses won't give you much fodder. He'll dodge them.
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RE: PP Rant- Christians, Stop Spreading LIES
October 11, 2011 at 9:18 am
I believe I would dodge that horrible book too... unless I was a fire.
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