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RE: Scripture for Trinitarians
October 25, 2011 at 4:12 pm
(This post was last modified: October 25, 2011 at 4:25 pm by Cyberman.)
Been watching this from the wings and I'd just like to pass a few comments which I know will be ignored or sidelined by certain parties.
First off, this whole 3=1 thing. I'm really struggling to get my head around the concept, truly I am. The closest I can figure is that Yahweh, Jesus and Holy Ghost are all seperate entities with individual personalities etc, but they are all part of the same global organisation; I imagine it as GodCorp International. When any single one of them speaks or acts in terms of a single entity, in practise it really means that individual is representing the Company. Am I on the right lines? I know I may have some little reputation as a piss-taker, however this is really quite a genuine question and it's the only way I can make "separate, but also the same essence" work for me.
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(October 25, 2011 at 1:04 am)lucent Wrote: (October 24, 2011 at 9:26 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Imaginary benefits are easy to make claims about, aren't they?
Right, billions of people who experience a qualitative improvement in their lives are just imagining those benefits.
I realise it's all too easy simply to post videos and links to articles in lieu of forming one's own thoughts on the matter - which is precisely why I'm about to do just that.
http://christianwatchindia.wordpress.com...trocities/
http://www.newstodaynet.com/col.php?sect...3&id=10262
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/...missionary
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfai..._ugly.html
Again I'm not trying to be facetious; I'd just like to ask by what definition of 'quality' were all these lives improved?
Finally I thought I'd throw in this little titbit of my own personal testimony for those among who may be amenable to such things. All I can say is I swear this is a genuine anecdote. Several nights ago I dreamed that a blazing light beamed down at me through pearlescent clouds, accompanied by choral music, and God appeared before me with a message. He told me he doesn't exist.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Scripture for Trinitarians
October 25, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Stop Groveling!!!
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RE: Scripture for Trinitarians
October 25, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Oh by the way Lucent, I just want to be sure I understand you clearly:
A god that creates a universe too big for it to micromanage = moral monster
A god that creates a universe and, due to being omnipotent, omniscient and capable of personal relationship with all of us is capable of preventing needless suffering but chooses not to micromanage because that would violate free will = OK
A bit more brief:
Unable to prevent evil = moral monster
Able but not willing to prevent evil = OK
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RE: Scripture for Trinitarians
October 25, 2011 at 11:18 pm
...ready to go back round the circle again ... 
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RE: Scripture for Trinitarians
October 25, 2011 at 11:19 pm
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Amusingly Statler is trying to fob off some half baked explanation of the trinity to me in a separate thread. Perhaps I should refer him here.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Scripture for Trinitarians
October 25, 2011 at 11:40 pm
(October 25, 2011 at 11:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Amusingly Statler is trying to fob off some half baked explanation of the trinity to me in a separate thread. Perhaps I should refer him here.
Oh I totally understand the trinity .... I was one hell of a witness for jesus back when I was christian. Click this to get all clarification!
DISCLAIMER: The link above will provide no clarity on the subject whatsoever.
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RE: Scripture for Trinitarians
October 26, 2011 at 12:39 am
(October 25, 2011 at 11:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Amusingly Statler is trying to fob off some half baked explanation of the trinity to me in a separate thread. Perhaps I should refer him here.\
I'm glad you're on Waldork duty. I'm frankly burned out on trying to school him on rational thinking.
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RE: Scripture for Trinitarians
October 26, 2011 at 12:42 am
(October 26, 2011 at 12:39 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: (October 25, 2011 at 11:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Amusingly Statler is trying to fob off some half baked explanation of the trinity to me in a separate thread. Perhaps I should refer him here.\
I'm glad you're on Waldork duty. I'm frankly burned out on trying to school him on rational thinking.
...you traded up one crazy for another Paladin. I gotta tell you. This one don't seem to be an improvement.
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RE: Scripture for Trinitarians
October 26, 2011 at 12:50 am
(October 26, 2011 at 12:42 am)Cinjin Wrote: (October 26, 2011 at 12:39 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: (October 25, 2011 at 11:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Amusingly Statler is trying to fob off some half baked explanation of the trinity to me in a separate thread. Perhaps I should refer him here.\
I'm glad you're on Waldork duty. I'm frankly burned out on trying to school him on rational thinking.
...you traded up one crazy for another Paladin. I gotta tell you. This one don't seem to be an improvement.
Exactly, I can only deal with one fucktard at a time. I don't multitask well.
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RE: Scripture for Trinitarians
October 26, 2011 at 2:00 am
(October 26, 2011 at 12:39 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: (October 25, 2011 at 11:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Amusingly Statler is trying to fob off some half baked explanation of the trinity to me in a separate thread. Perhaps I should refer him here.\
I'm glad you're on Waldork duty. I'm frankly burned out on trying to school him on rational thinking.
Why fucking bother? Just keep reminding him that he's a shithead and his god is an illusion.
No need to exert yourself.
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