I had a convo with a christian girl today (:
Just wondering what you guys think?
It's kind of long, but funny xD
By the way, im not in anyway a religious person as well as im not an atheist. :X
I have my own way to see things, and i dont need to be in a part of a group to have an opinion of how i will view life.
"JojoIsMe says:
God bless (:
Tania says:
:]
Tania says:
hey
JojoIsMe says:
Hai hai (:
JojoIsMe says:
I dont know! I just think of "god" when i see you
JojoIsMe says:
x3
Tania says:
haha thanx
Tania says:
how r u? :]
JojoIsMe says:
im good (:
JojoIsMe says:
Oh
JojoIsMe says:
By the way
JojoIsMe says:
Are you catholic, orthodox or protestant?
Tania says:
um well i just count my self Christian :] a Follower Of God... i really dont count my self as those cuz ive been in baptist churchest and protestant and all others.. i know im not chatholic tho...humm i gues both of baptist and protestant?
JojoIsMe says:
I see
JojoIsMe says:
That means you should be more open to gods designs right?
JojoIsMe says:
I mean
JojoIsMe says:
being able to question god?
Tania says:
well i mean..i just follow what God tells me through the Bible... and i mean What God says is right then it must be! n questions asked
Tania says:
no*
Tania says:
even tho i mean we all ask questions :]
JojoIsMe says:
well
JojoIsMe says:
im a girl you see
Tania says:
mhm
JojoIsMe says:
But
JojoIsMe says:
Why would god be so cruel that he would give a girl a mans body.
http://www.profil3.com/blog/36545/0/Thou...exual.html
http://www.profil3.com/blog/36197/0/Life...art_1.html
Tania says:
life of a transsexual <-- just read it... um well u know alot of my cuzins Boys played with barbies and dolls and dressed up together with us... but see ya if u grow up with a girl u both do things together and mainly dono why its wat the girl wants to do and its dolls and soo in the end if the guy doesnt grow with other boys too i mean hed not know of football or Talking about liking other girls
Tania says:
etc but in the end... God said we are born with Sin...and soo most ppll say that gays are born gays... well WE are born with sin... and soo.....well i know this cuz ive delt with it.. ive liked girls cuz they understand me more they alwas look cute etc.. but in the end i new it was Wrong.. and i prayed asked God to forgive me for such foolishness... and to repare me in liking guys how its suppose
Tania says:
to be
JojoIsMe says:
So you're saying that, me being a girl is wrong?
Tania says:
also umm some guys think if there Emotional they have a girls trate... thats wrong.. some guys can be more emotional then others its not wrong
Tania says:
what do u mean its wrong?
JojoIsMe says:
The fact that im a girl
JojoIsMe says:
Is wrong to "god"
Tania says:
nope.... if your born a Girl and think u should be a guy thats wrong..
Tania says:
thats not like accepting your self of how u are
JojoIsMe says:
But i was born a guy and now im a girl
Tania says:
ah well i mean i really cant like tell u Umm wat to do or something cuz i mean i havnt really experianced it but.. i mean see why did u turn into a girl?
JojoIsMe says:
I am a girl, always was! But i was in a mans body
JojoIsMe says:
o.o
JojoIsMe says:
How is being a girl and wanting to be a guy any different?
JojoIsMe says:
sounds a little hypocritical to me
Tania says:
see u said up there your self "you were born a guy but now your a girl" soo u knew you were a boy... i mean and now your saying u were a girl always just in a guys body... but over all u were a Guy right? u just thought u liked everything a girl does.. but see liking wat a girl likes isnt that bad... i mean theres wher e ppl get "common interests" from right?
JojoIsMe says:
I know!! But you're missing the point! Im exactly like a girl, i am a girl! It's not the fact that i have lots of things in common with what girls like
JojoIsMe says:
Why are you trying to imply that
JojoIsMe says:
?
JojoIsMe says:
@__@
Tania says:
im not trying to do anything ..but how were u like a girl...tell me everything like u say ur a girl ......whats being a girl to u?
Tania says:
what do u think a girl is?
JojoIsMe says:
I girl is someone who likes to be a girl and not having a penis
JojoIsMe says:
Every single day, i was wondering why i had a penis
Tania says:
well ya but u should accept it like...say WELL i have a penis cuz im a guy right?...i mean for sure if i thought right now that i need to be with a penis and be like a guy i could do it....but i learned to accept it and say God gave me this body for a reason and im born a girl i should act like 1...u know how parents are always "act like a girl/guy" or something and well u learn off that :] and
Tania says:
of course with Gods help ive totally accepted the fact i have boobs and a girls figure
Tania says:
and also i dont wanna like hurt u in any way >< just telling u how like i see it and most ppl see it ....i mean i dont hate gays or lez just that they dont accept the fact God gave them that body and they should love oppisite sex... ><
JojoIsMe says:
Just to be clear, i dont believe in some old metaphore that's supose to be the embodiment of the sun, that people call "God".
JojoIsMe says:
In my opinon, religion is something for weak willed minds
JojoIsMe says:
people who cant have their own opinions
JojoIsMe says:
and hides behind a wall of ignorance
JojoIsMe says:
thinking that will make them able to say anything
Tania says:
mmm i c
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, to me, there is no god.. I was feeling very well a lot of times in my life, never would i bow down to some "god" thing. that's like saying that you went insane. For praying for something that you before didnt believe in, but later on, accepts just because you're having hardships!
real people dont need mataphors to be able to stand up for themselves
JojoIsMe says:
By metaphor, i mean "God/sun"
JojoIsMe says:
That's what i think
Tania says:
ah
JojoIsMe says:
But my philosopy is that everyone should be able to believe in whatever they want to believe in. Unless it's something stupid that's only about hate. Like racism.
Tania says:
and well it is true u dont just pray because u have hardships... u pray always ....good and bad :]
Tania says:
o
JojoIsMe says:
So i dont mind of people believing in whatever they want
JojoIsMe says:
You pray because you feel obligated to do so. Making you not having a mind of your own
JojoIsMe says:
It's like pouring salt over your shoulder just because you were scared of having bad luck
JojoIsMe says:
That's praying
JojoIsMe says:
same thing to me
JojoIsMe says:
Im just saying that im more enlightened and strong willed then you.. But im not saying that my way is the way of living
JojoIsMe says:
The thing with life is that everyone needs to follow the path they feel comfortable with
JojoIsMe says:
That's when it's a good life
JojoIsMe says:
Everyone is different
Tania says:
mmm i c :] well of course for me.....i believe Gods the truth and i will follow him till the end cuz im sinful in everything i do.....also paster said this Sunday.. umm "everyone knows theres a God...and also Know hes the truth...but not all want to beleive in him because if they do the Truth will show them there sinful and they dont want it..soo they pretty much dont accept it"
Tania says:
mm
JojoIsMe says:
Dont try to impose logic like that.
It's like me saying this to you.
"The truth is that you're actually an idiot for not thinking EXACTLY like me. You want to believe like i do, but you dont because you're an idiot"
JojoIsMe says:
"A compelate idiotic idiot"
JojoIsMe says:
See
JojoIsMe says:
same thing
JojoIsMe says:
Exactly like saying that
Tania says:
mmm well im not forcing u in believing in God im just simply telling u what i believe like u are to me :]
JojoIsMe says:
Yea.. I guess you cant help it..
But you should understand that i look down on believing people for just this reason
Tania says:
mm well u know for me....I believe in him because hes changed my life....fully
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, i bet. I dont mind that you believe in that. but i look down on you for being mean without meaning it. Just because you dont know any better. It's that logic in conversations like this
Tania says:
well i mean its not like u werent kinda mean to me :] but i mean i over looked it... because theres no need in being mad... i stand strong in what i believe and i new always that alot wouldnt accept and some do and i come to tell every1 about God no matter what :] some ppl will try to beat me or...even kill me...but So...i know Gods there and i died for a great Reason! :]
JojoIsMe says:
@__@
Another reason why i look down on you!
But it's cute x3
That you do things and just stay happy for it (:
JojoIsMe says:
Oh, and i was just stating similarities
JojoIsMe says:
I was never mean, you were
JojoIsMe says:
But dont worry
JojoIsMe says:
Like i said, you dont mean it
JojoIsMe says:
(:
Tania says:
i mean i might sound mean again >< but i use to tell ppl srry alot for being mean to them about talking about God...but now i mean u can accept it or not but >< im not sorry for telling u wat i said
JojoIsMe says:
Dont worry (:
Im fine with it xD
JojoIsMe says:
You're just saying things that your religion said
JojoIsMe says:
Refering to that "no will of your own" again
JojoIsMe says:
(:
Tania says:
ahh humm how was your weekend?
JojoIsMe says:
It was kind of good (:
Tania says:
oo
Tania says:
at least kind of
JojoIsMe says:
xD
Tania says:
JojoIsMe says:
I talked with some muslim earlier
JojoIsMe says:
To him, his god is the only one, and i believe in him, but dont chose to believe in that god
JojoIsMe says:
So i dont know. Who's the right god then?
JojoIsMe says:
If there's 2 gods that's the "right god" that i believe in
JojoIsMe says:
@__@
JojoIsMe says:
People seem to know more about me then i do
JojoIsMe says:
xD
Tania says:
so wait wat God do they believe?
Tania says:
lol
JojoIsMe says:
Allah
JojoIsMe says:
You believe in allah too
JojoIsMe says:
But
JojoIsMe says:
You just wont accept that you do
JojoIsMe says:
But you do
Tania says:
lol well allah is? do they make statues of him?
Tania says:
or her or ya..
JojoIsMe says:
Allah is the god! That you believe in
JojoIsMe says:
And i believe in
JojoIsMe says:
But
JojoIsMe says:
we just wont accept it
Tania says:
i personaly think all statues are...silly..
JojoIsMe says:
There's no statues of it
JojoIsMe says:
Why would you assume that?
Tania says:
umm well accutally i dont get u i personally dont believe in allah..
Tania says:
cuz like some ppl do
Tania says:
soo i was just
Tania says:
asking
JojoIsMe says:
But they say that everyone believe in allah ):
So it must be true! Since they say that Allah is the only real god
Tania says:
really...but do u REALLY believe that thats true? like u said ur self u dont beleive in any God or anything but u positive? i mean what if i said EVERYONE knows God is God and u can not beleive there isnt
Tania says:
would u beleive it?
JojoIsMe says:
But you said that everyone believes in your god, but just wont accept it! So that means that both you and i believe in your god and Allah
JojoIsMe says:
It must be true since so many people are saying it
JojoIsMe says:
Right? ):
Tania says:
humm all i can tell u now is.......God said hes the Only God ....and all the rest are silly... but tell me wat does allah do for them wat REAL things have they experianced. from this allah? because i experianced alot from God... he helped me go over being a Bi... umm suiside... REALLLY bad dEPRESSION umm.....transfromed my heart into loving everyone and accepting them but not loving there sin ...
JojoIsMe says:
But Allah does the same! He shows the people the right way, guiding them through hard times, helping them from such horrible sins as wanting to be a girl, being gay and all that
JojoIsMe says:
So many people say that Allah is the only god that everyone actually believes in.
Tania says:
im sure he does but did they have there own storys of saying how HE really did that?
JojoIsMe says:
No! They are not stories, it happened
JojoIsMe says:
Just like noas arc and mohameds venture
Tania says:
ehh i didnt mean it that way
Tania says:
i meant as have they told u them selfs..
Tania says:
that allah
Tania says:
helped
Tania says:
them
Tania says:
and
Tania says:
all tha
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, they have
JojoIsMe says:
Allah is a god everyone believes in, so is your god, everyone believes in your god.
JojoIsMe says:
So does that mean that there are 2 gods? Or that they are the same?
Tania says:
but your avoiding the question.. okay they have now tell me what they said?
JojoIsMe says:
They've told me about that Allah is showing them the right way to go! Because silly humans cant find their own way in life
JojoIsMe says:
same with your god
JojoIsMe says:
Your god is showing you the real ways of living
JojoIsMe says:
and that silly humans cant find their own way
Tania says:
eh but im saying when they had struggles or Some bad problem and they gave it all to allah to handle...did it work? did Allah really Help them in there OWN lifes?
JojoIsMe says:
Yes! Allah created the world in 6 days, and took a break the 7th day
JojoIsMe says:
He helped everyone
JojoIsMe says:
In the whole world
JojoIsMe says:
Because it's the only true religion! Just like yours, yours is the only true religion
Tania says:
lol... like here i told u How God helped me over come alot of things... but tell me 1 persons exeriance that they told u
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, one person told me that he was born to believe that Allah is the only true religion, and he is glad that his parents told him the true ways of life
JojoIsMe says:
He said he would be killing himself if he hadnt been believing in Allah
JojoIsMe says:
Because Allah is the true god, just like your god is the true god
JojoIsMe says:
And everyone believes in them both.
JojoIsMe says:
Even tho some people dont accept that
Tania says:
but see the only thing u tell me is...allaah is like your God ...and how everyone beleives in them and how some ppl dont accpet.. i get it.. but thats not what im asking from u
JojoIsMe says:
?
JojoIsMe says:
You believe in allah
JojoIsMe says:
You just dont know that you do that! You've accepted another god.
JojoIsMe says:
But you say that everyone else is believing in that god
JojoIsMe says:
Which means that everyone has accepted the wrong god
Tania says:
im asking the person u talked to ... does he have real life experiances where he prayed and somethng happend where he was in struggle and Allah helped etc....ur just not saying that all our saying is allah is lik God and there the same etc...
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, he asked for his router once, and his dad came in with that
Tania says:
how about spiritual.. earthly things dont mean much :]
JojoIsMe says:
well, Allah speaks to him in his prayers, always showing the right ways to go, making him live through the day
Tania says:
mm soo when your friend was in.........deep need of help for prayer of like depression or like....something did he get through it?
JojoIsMe says:
Yes! All thanks to Allah, the one true god that everyone believes in
Tania says:
lol mmm cool :]
Tania says:
well i mean i still beleive theres only God :
Tania says:
:]
JojoIsMe says:
Yea
Tania says:
cuz God said so !
JojoIsMe says:
Allah
JojoIsMe says:
Ya
Tania says:
nope
JojoIsMe says:
Allah said so
JojoIsMe says:
Allah said that there's only one god, and all also said that everye believes in him
JojoIsMe says:
everyone*
Tania says:
humm well u know if your trying ot change my mind like seriously.. like i said wont work..
Tania says:
soo wat are u implying here
JojoIsMe says:
well xD
JojoIsMe says:
Haha
JojoIsMe says:
Glad you asked
Tania says:
P
Tania says:
*
JojoIsMe says:
Im just telling you their side of how they think
JojoIsMe says:
I mean
Tania says:
w
Tania says:
JojoIsMe says:
They say that to you
Tania says:
g
JojoIsMe says:
?
Tania says:
srry..
Tania says:
my keyboard was going crazy
Tania says:
lol
JojoIsMe says:
Dont worry! God wanted it to go crazy
Tania says:
maybe :]
JojoIsMe says:
No use saying sorry, since we all know that's what god would have want
JojoIsMe says:
So lets all stop saying sorry
JojoIsMe says:
(:
Tania says:
lol
JojoIsMe says:
What i was trying to get accross is that Allah, the jewish god and the christian god is the same god. But was once split into 3 religions, and then, those religions were split into "brenches"
JojoIsMe says:
And in the future, they will probably get even more split
JojoIsMe says:
till eventually, religion will die
Tania says:
i c
JojoIsMe says:
religion is, to me and a lot of other sane people, a mokery of human inteligence
Tania says:
but see some ppl... make other Gods cuz they dont want to accept wat the Real God wants from us.. soo they make another god thats more accepting then the Real God..
Tania says:
soo it Goes on..
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, i know! We all know that Allah is the real god
JojoIsMe says:
So you made your own god
JojoIsMe says:
Imaginary god
Tania says:
like humm God is against....sex before marriage... then some person wil lbe like Well..........John... is a real God cuz he does the same thing as God but... he allows sex before marriage and ppl beleive in that
JojoIsMe says:
Oh! You're actually smart about religion?
This surly should show you that religion will die in the future. Because with all these things happening, there will eventually be so many different kinds that there is no more religion
Tania says:
im s ure there will still
Tania says:
be
Tania says:
:]
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, because as well all know, not having a mind of your own is a good thing
Tania says:
lol hum maybe :]
JojoIsMe says:
I think religion is a silly thing. It's cute how you all follow it so strictly tho.
JojoIsMe says:
I mean, if god told you to kill yourself, you would do that without question, because it's what god wants
Tania says:
lol well also u should be smart..
JojoIsMe says:
Who knows, maybe he wanted that because he wanted you to control heavens army with a golden PSP against satans army
Tania says:
murder is a sin..
JojoIsMe says:
Not if god says it to you (:
JojoIsMe says:
He can bend his own rules
Tania says:
well then its not God
Tania says:
nope
JojoIsMe says:
Yes it is
JojoIsMe says:
God can do that
JojoIsMe says:
(:
Tania says:
he stated them Promised..
Tania says:
and they cant ever be bended..
JojoIsMe says:
Are you trying to say that god cant do everything? ;O
Tania says:
see we THINK that cuz where sinful "Oh God can bend this rule for me"
Tania says:
NO he cant
Tania says:
he WONT.
Tania says:
Follow the rules
Tania says:
THATS IT
JojoIsMe says:
So you're saying that god isnt all powerful
Tania says:
if not well....ur not Getting any closer to God..
JojoIsMe says:
Huh
JojoIsMe says:
I always thought he was
Tania says:
yes he is....
JojoIsMe says:
No
JojoIsMe says:
You just said that he isnt
Tania says:
he wont Bend his own rules
JojoIsMe says:
But if he cant do that, that means he isnt all powerful
JojoIsMe says:
Right?
Tania says:
WELL we dont know God ...and if God wanted u ... he would take your soul without you even killing your self :]
JojoIsMe says:
But you still havnt told me
JojoIsMe says:
is god all powerful?
Tania says:
yes God is.. God controls everything
JojoIsMe says:
No
JojoIsMe says:
You said that he doesnt control his own rules
JojoIsMe says:
Which means that he doesnt control everything
JojoIsMe says:
Right?
Tania says:
lol ehh u didnt get me right...
JojoIsMe says:
?
Tania says:
or maybe i didnt say it right..
JojoIsMe says:
But if he cant control his own rules, that means he cant control everything
Tania says:
YES he does control his rules but its like stating... u need this much credits to make it to this college NO LESS.....
JojoIsMe says:
Huh?
Tania says:
some director wouldnt like bend a rule of sayin oh he has 1 credit smaller its okay... he can come in..
Tania says:
thats how God is.. YOU FOLLOW THESE RULES u COME to the kingdom of HEAVEN
Tania says:
..if u dont u go to hell
Tania says:
End of story..
Tania says:
THats it..
JojoIsMe says:
But that still means he doesnt control everything, making him not all powerful
Tania says:
i dont get wat your implying again... i just said he was ...well soo far God never bended a rule for anyone what makes u think.. hed wanna start now?
JojoIsMe says:
But if he cant bend the rules
JojoIsMe says:
That has to mean
JojoIsMe says:
That he cant control everything
JojoIsMe says:
because a rule, is something
JojoIsMe says:
And not being able to bend it, means that he cant control everything
Tania says:
ummm go ask him your self for him to bend a rule for u... maybe God doesnt want ot bend the rule.. yes he controls all rules but he wont bend them for u or me or any1..
JojoIsMe says:
But if he feels like he should bend a rule, but then, he cant, because he isnt all powerful
Tania says:
if he wanted to he could
Tania says:
... he can do anything
JojoIsMe says:
Oh, but you said that he couldnt bend the rules?
JojoIsMe says:
Right?
JojoIsMe says:
You said that a few mins ago o.o
Tania says:
well i said it wrong my bad..
JojoIsMe says:
How is it?
Tania says:
yes if he wanted to he could
JojoIsMe says:
So he can bend all rules?
JojoIsMe says:
(:
JojoIsMe says:
Ok
JojoIsMe says:
That clears up a lot of things
JojoIsMe says:
x
JojoIsMe says:
xD
JojoIsMe says:
That means that everything and anything can happen
JojoIsMe says:
Right?
Tania says:
Okay listen to this.... God made stricked rules cuz...anything out of his rules is a Sin... and He HATES sin...
Tania says:
soo he cant bend the rule cuz if he does hes letting some 1 sin"kindof" but NO he doesnt like KIND OF..
Tania says:
he says
Tania says:
DO THIS U COME WITH ME
Tania says:
U DONT DO IT..
Tania says:
U GO TO HELL
JojoIsMe says:
oh! So that means he isnt all powerful
JojoIsMe says:
):
JojoIsMe says:
ok
JojoIsMe says:
Because he should be able to control everything if he is all powerful right?
Tania says:
but he also allows evil for ppl to know how Powerful he is and how people should seek God more !! because if there was no evil u wouldnt know how Great and powerful God is right?.............also YES once again GOD IS ALL POWERFUL... :]
JojoIsMe says:
oh! So that means he can bend his rules however he likes?
Tania says:
but he doesnt... beacuse bending them means Letting the ppl sin...
JojoIsMe says:
He is it. Can he bend the rules and be all powerful, or is he not all powerful and cant bend his own rules
Tania says:
and he doesnt want that!
JojoIsMe says:
which means he cant, it's the same thing
JojoIsMe says:
Doesnt want because the outcome might lead to something you wouldnt like is the same as "you cant"
JojoIsMe says:
which means that he isnt all powerful
Tania says:
i dont see your point in all this..
Tania says:
ur just trying to blind your self
Tania says:
ive told u
Tania says:
everything
Tania says:
read it
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, read mine
JojoIsMe says:
I told you a similarity between "not being able to" and "cant"
JojoIsMe says:
It's the same thing
JojoIsMe says:
So it means that god cant bend the rules and isnt all powerful
Tania says:
and understand beause like i said.......God is all powerful and he dont want to bend his Rules... because if he does hes allowing ppl to sin.. and he doesnt LIKE sin...thats why he sent Jesus to die for our sins so through him we can be cleaned....and enter heavens...
JojoIsMe says:
well! Like i said!
He doesnt like sins, meaning that if he bends his rules, sins will occur, and he simply doesnt want that!
But since he cant do it because he's not able to because of the sins that will occur, that also means that he simply cant. Since he cant bend the rules, that means he is NOT all powerful
Tania says:
but also know... he allowed evil and sins to happen soo ppl will Go and follow the rules as they are because they wanna be clean and be with God
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, but that doesnt have anything to do with the fact that he isnt all powerful
JojoIsMe says:
He cant bend the rules
Tania says:
he doesnt WANT to bend them...
Tania says:
thats why he never did..
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, and because he doesnt want to, that means he cant
Tania says:
that doesnt mean he cant
Tania says:
LIEK for example ... i can have sex right now if i wanted..
Tania says:
but i DONT WANT TO
Tania says:
doenst mean i CANT
JojoIsMe says:
Yea
JojoIsMe says:
That means you cant
JojoIsMe says:
since you dont want to
Tania says:
but i can :]
Tania says:
i choose not to
JojoIsMe says:
But it's not the same situation
JojoIsMe says:
God cant bend the rules because that would make sinners occur, and god doesnt like sinners, and because he doesnt like sinners, he cant bend the rules. Making god not all powerful
Tania says:
see now its not the same situation :]
JojoIsMe says:
?
JojoIsMe says:
It never was
JojoIsMe says:
you cant compare your life to god
JojoIsMe says:
You should know that
Tania says:
See if God bend the rules.. how would it be any diff then...living here on earth.. with all these "so called christians"
JojoIsMe says:
Huh?
Tania says:
who show they are but then bend the rules them selfs and just do sin?
JojoIsMe says:
well, god should be able to do that. If he really wanted to
Tania says:
or if God bend rules wats the point of JESUS dying for us.. if God could just bend the rules for us?
JojoIsMe says:
well, god doesnt care about that, if god is all powerful, he doesnt care about that
Tania says:
well he doesnt care about bending rules for us..
JojoIsMe says:
I never said bending it for humans
Tania says:
he said who follows them...can Come with me and kingdom of heavens and ME as your tresure and be happy for eternity
Tania says:
:]
Tania says:
bending the rules for sin.. same thing wat do u need for God to bend the rules
Tania says:
humans with sin
Tania says:
ight?
Tania says:
why bend rules for just SIN.. i mean thats pain stupid right there...
JojoIsMe says:
well, if he cant bend the rules, that makes him not all powerful
JojoIsMe says:
Since making everyone sinful should be something he is able to do
JojoIsMe says:
But since he doesnt like sin at all, he really cant do it
JojoIsMe says:
Which means that he's not all powerful
Tania says:
no see God didnt make them sinful
Tania says:
Satan did
Tania says:
God just Allowed it to happen for ppl to see God as Greater then Sin..
JojoIsMe says:
But you've said a lot of times in this convo that god makes sin
Tania says:
and more better
JojoIsMe says:
o.o
Tania says:
ehh srry i confused u..
Tania says:
no God didnt ... he ALLOWED it.. Satan did sin...
JojoIsMe says:
Which means that god cant make sin, which means that since he cant make sin, he's not all powerful
JojoIsMe says:
There you go, god is not all powerful
Tania says:
let me ask u....whats your point in the end of this Whole Convo... that God isnt al powerful? well u try making the earth world... UMM trees grow a PLANT.. ummmmm air Breathing.. all the little cells in your body that work PERFECTLY... ummm how the planets move and dont HIT eachother at all
JojoIsMe says:
well, you cant seem to disprove that im right now tho (:
Im just waiting for you to make an answer such as the one you just made n.n
JojoIsMe says:
I never meant anything bad tho
JojoIsMe says:
x3
Tania says:
Tania says:
its fine
JojoIsMe says:
I know you believe that god is all powerful <3
JojoIsMe says:
n.n
Tania says:
mm well ill besure to ask my paster about our talk
Tania says:
and let him answer :]
JojoIsMe says:
xD
Tania says:
JojoIsMe says:
haha! I'd love to see the answer to that
Tania says:
ok
Tania says:
so tell me your question is.........
Tania says:
to all this convo..
JojoIsMe says:
well! Let him just read the convo! Because the convo is a good lenght to make him understand the question
JojoIsMe says:
A simple question wotn do it
JojoIsMe says:
wont*
JojoIsMe says:
if you want help to answer that, i'd say that you should let someone read that whole convo
Tania says:
ok sure
Tania says:
lol ok
Tania says:
well ill copy it all and send him it
JojoIsMe says:
(:
JojoIsMe says:
I dont want some "Because he simply is all powerful" answer tho! Because that doesnt count.
You already came up with evendence to disprove me and so forth, so coming with such an answer that is in no way grounded is cheating
JojoIsMe says:
xD
JojoIsMe says:
Just so you know
Tania says:
even tho i bet i said somehing wrong.. and me might even correct me
Tania says:
soo just letting u know
Tania says:
lol
Tania says:
grr i hate mac..
Tania says:
its like u cant copy the convo
JojoIsMe says:
):
JojoIsMe says:
I copied tho
JojoIsMe says:
n.n
Tania says:
weird..
JojoIsMe sends:
JojoIsMe says:
(:
Tania says:
ty
JojoIsMe says:
yw n.n
Transfer of "GodTalk.rtf" is complete.
Tania says:
was jjust about to ask
JojoIsMe says:
x3
Tania says:
ty :]
Tania says:
ok
Tania says:
well i sent him it
JojoIsMe says:
x3
Tania says:
and srry id love to talk more but i got Hwk to do
Tania says:
nnnd need to help mom cook
Tania says:
Tania says:
God bless bye bye"
Just wondering what you guys think?
It's kind of long, but funny xD
By the way, im not in anyway a religious person as well as im not an atheist. :X
I have my own way to see things, and i dont need to be in a part of a group to have an opinion of how i will view life.
"JojoIsMe says:
God bless (:
Tania says:
:]
Tania says:
hey
JojoIsMe says:
Hai hai (:
JojoIsMe says:
I dont know! I just think of "god" when i see you
JojoIsMe says:
x3
Tania says:
haha thanx
Tania says:
how r u? :]
JojoIsMe says:
im good (:
JojoIsMe says:
Oh
JojoIsMe says:
By the way
JojoIsMe says:
Are you catholic, orthodox or protestant?
Tania says:
um well i just count my self Christian :] a Follower Of God... i really dont count my self as those cuz ive been in baptist churchest and protestant and all others.. i know im not chatholic tho...humm i gues both of baptist and protestant?
JojoIsMe says:
I see
JojoIsMe says:
That means you should be more open to gods designs right?
JojoIsMe says:
I mean
JojoIsMe says:
being able to question god?
Tania says:
well i mean..i just follow what God tells me through the Bible... and i mean What God says is right then it must be! n questions asked
Tania says:
no*
Tania says:
even tho i mean we all ask questions :]
JojoIsMe says:
well
JojoIsMe says:
im a girl you see
Tania says:
mhm
JojoIsMe says:
But
JojoIsMe says:
Why would god be so cruel that he would give a girl a mans body.
http://www.profil3.com/blog/36545/0/Thou...exual.html
http://www.profil3.com/blog/36197/0/Life...art_1.html
Tania says:
life of a transsexual <-- just read it... um well u know alot of my cuzins Boys played with barbies and dolls and dressed up together with us... but see ya if u grow up with a girl u both do things together and mainly dono why its wat the girl wants to do and its dolls and soo in the end if the guy doesnt grow with other boys too i mean hed not know of football or Talking about liking other girls
Tania says:
etc but in the end... God said we are born with Sin...and soo most ppll say that gays are born gays... well WE are born with sin... and soo.....well i know this cuz ive delt with it.. ive liked girls cuz they understand me more they alwas look cute etc.. but in the end i new it was Wrong.. and i prayed asked God to forgive me for such foolishness... and to repare me in liking guys how its suppose
Tania says:
to be
JojoIsMe says:
So you're saying that, me being a girl is wrong?
Tania says:
also umm some guys think if there Emotional they have a girls trate... thats wrong.. some guys can be more emotional then others its not wrong
Tania says:
what do u mean its wrong?
JojoIsMe says:
The fact that im a girl
JojoIsMe says:
Is wrong to "god"
Tania says:
nope.... if your born a Girl and think u should be a guy thats wrong..
Tania says:
thats not like accepting your self of how u are
JojoIsMe says:
But i was born a guy and now im a girl
Tania says:
ah well i mean i really cant like tell u Umm wat to do or something cuz i mean i havnt really experianced it but.. i mean see why did u turn into a girl?
JojoIsMe says:
I am a girl, always was! But i was in a mans body
JojoIsMe says:
o.o
JojoIsMe says:
How is being a girl and wanting to be a guy any different?
JojoIsMe says:
sounds a little hypocritical to me
Tania says:
see u said up there your self "you were born a guy but now your a girl" soo u knew you were a boy... i mean and now your saying u were a girl always just in a guys body... but over all u were a Guy right? u just thought u liked everything a girl does.. but see liking wat a girl likes isnt that bad... i mean theres wher e ppl get "common interests" from right?
JojoIsMe says:
I know!! But you're missing the point! Im exactly like a girl, i am a girl! It's not the fact that i have lots of things in common with what girls like
JojoIsMe says:
Why are you trying to imply that
JojoIsMe says:
?
JojoIsMe says:
@__@
Tania says:
im not trying to do anything ..but how were u like a girl...tell me everything like u say ur a girl ......whats being a girl to u?
Tania says:
what do u think a girl is?
JojoIsMe says:
I girl is someone who likes to be a girl and not having a penis
JojoIsMe says:
Every single day, i was wondering why i had a penis
Tania says:
well ya but u should accept it like...say WELL i have a penis cuz im a guy right?...i mean for sure if i thought right now that i need to be with a penis and be like a guy i could do it....but i learned to accept it and say God gave me this body for a reason and im born a girl i should act like 1...u know how parents are always "act like a girl/guy" or something and well u learn off that :] and
Tania says:
of course with Gods help ive totally accepted the fact i have boobs and a girls figure
Tania says:
and also i dont wanna like hurt u in any way >< just telling u how like i see it and most ppl see it ....i mean i dont hate gays or lez just that they dont accept the fact God gave them that body and they should love oppisite sex... ><
JojoIsMe says:
Just to be clear, i dont believe in some old metaphore that's supose to be the embodiment of the sun, that people call "God".
JojoIsMe says:
In my opinon, religion is something for weak willed minds
JojoIsMe says:
people who cant have their own opinions
JojoIsMe says:
and hides behind a wall of ignorance
JojoIsMe says:
thinking that will make them able to say anything
Tania says:
mmm i c
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, to me, there is no god.. I was feeling very well a lot of times in my life, never would i bow down to some "god" thing. that's like saying that you went insane. For praying for something that you before didnt believe in, but later on, accepts just because you're having hardships!
real people dont need mataphors to be able to stand up for themselves
JojoIsMe says:
By metaphor, i mean "God/sun"
JojoIsMe says:
That's what i think
Tania says:
ah
JojoIsMe says:
But my philosopy is that everyone should be able to believe in whatever they want to believe in. Unless it's something stupid that's only about hate. Like racism.
Tania says:
and well it is true u dont just pray because u have hardships... u pray always ....good and bad :]
Tania says:
o
JojoIsMe says:
So i dont mind of people believing in whatever they want
JojoIsMe says:
You pray because you feel obligated to do so. Making you not having a mind of your own
JojoIsMe says:
It's like pouring salt over your shoulder just because you were scared of having bad luck
JojoIsMe says:
That's praying
JojoIsMe says:
same thing to me
JojoIsMe says:
Im just saying that im more enlightened and strong willed then you.. But im not saying that my way is the way of living
JojoIsMe says:
The thing with life is that everyone needs to follow the path they feel comfortable with
JojoIsMe says:
That's when it's a good life
JojoIsMe says:
Everyone is different
Tania says:
mmm i c :] well of course for me.....i believe Gods the truth and i will follow him till the end cuz im sinful in everything i do.....also paster said this Sunday.. umm "everyone knows theres a God...and also Know hes the truth...but not all want to beleive in him because if they do the Truth will show them there sinful and they dont want it..soo they pretty much dont accept it"
Tania says:
mm
JojoIsMe says:
Dont try to impose logic like that.
It's like me saying this to you.
"The truth is that you're actually an idiot for not thinking EXACTLY like me. You want to believe like i do, but you dont because you're an idiot"
JojoIsMe says:
"A compelate idiotic idiot"
JojoIsMe says:
See
JojoIsMe says:
same thing
JojoIsMe says:
Exactly like saying that
Tania says:
mmm well im not forcing u in believing in God im just simply telling u what i believe like u are to me :]
JojoIsMe says:
Yea.. I guess you cant help it..
But you should understand that i look down on believing people for just this reason
Tania says:
mm well u know for me....I believe in him because hes changed my life....fully
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, i bet. I dont mind that you believe in that. but i look down on you for being mean without meaning it. Just because you dont know any better. It's that logic in conversations like this
Tania says:
well i mean its not like u werent kinda mean to me :] but i mean i over looked it... because theres no need in being mad... i stand strong in what i believe and i new always that alot wouldnt accept and some do and i come to tell every1 about God no matter what :] some ppl will try to beat me or...even kill me...but So...i know Gods there and i died for a great Reason! :]
JojoIsMe says:
@__@
Another reason why i look down on you!
But it's cute x3
That you do things and just stay happy for it (:
JojoIsMe says:
Oh, and i was just stating similarities
JojoIsMe says:
I was never mean, you were
JojoIsMe says:
But dont worry
JojoIsMe says:
Like i said, you dont mean it
JojoIsMe says:
(:
Tania says:
i mean i might sound mean again >< but i use to tell ppl srry alot for being mean to them about talking about God...but now i mean u can accept it or not but >< im not sorry for telling u wat i said
JojoIsMe says:
Dont worry (:
Im fine with it xD
JojoIsMe says:
You're just saying things that your religion said
JojoIsMe says:
Refering to that "no will of your own" again
JojoIsMe says:
(:
Tania says:
ahh humm how was your weekend?
JojoIsMe says:
It was kind of good (:
Tania says:
oo
Tania says:
at least kind of
JojoIsMe says:
xD
Tania says:
JojoIsMe says:
I talked with some muslim earlier
JojoIsMe says:
To him, his god is the only one, and i believe in him, but dont chose to believe in that god
JojoIsMe says:
So i dont know. Who's the right god then?
JojoIsMe says:
If there's 2 gods that's the "right god" that i believe in
JojoIsMe says:
@__@
JojoIsMe says:
People seem to know more about me then i do
JojoIsMe says:
xD
Tania says:
so wait wat God do they believe?
Tania says:
lol
JojoIsMe says:
Allah
JojoIsMe says:
You believe in allah too
JojoIsMe says:
But
JojoIsMe says:
You just wont accept that you do
JojoIsMe says:
But you do
Tania says:
lol well allah is? do they make statues of him?
Tania says:
or her or ya..
JojoIsMe says:
Allah is the god! That you believe in
JojoIsMe says:
And i believe in
JojoIsMe says:
But
JojoIsMe says:
we just wont accept it
Tania says:
i personaly think all statues are...silly..
JojoIsMe says:
There's no statues of it
JojoIsMe says:
Why would you assume that?
Tania says:
umm well accutally i dont get u i personally dont believe in allah..
Tania says:
cuz like some ppl do
Tania says:
soo i was just
Tania says:
asking
JojoIsMe says:
But they say that everyone believe in allah ):
So it must be true! Since they say that Allah is the only real god
Tania says:
really...but do u REALLY believe that thats true? like u said ur self u dont beleive in any God or anything but u positive? i mean what if i said EVERYONE knows God is God and u can not beleive there isnt
Tania says:
would u beleive it?
JojoIsMe says:
But you said that everyone believes in your god, but just wont accept it! So that means that both you and i believe in your god and Allah
JojoIsMe says:
It must be true since so many people are saying it
JojoIsMe says:
Right? ):
Tania says:
humm all i can tell u now is.......God said hes the Only God ....and all the rest are silly... but tell me wat does allah do for them wat REAL things have they experianced. from this allah? because i experianced alot from God... he helped me go over being a Bi... umm suiside... REALLLY bad dEPRESSION umm.....transfromed my heart into loving everyone and accepting them but not loving there sin ...
JojoIsMe says:
But Allah does the same! He shows the people the right way, guiding them through hard times, helping them from such horrible sins as wanting to be a girl, being gay and all that
JojoIsMe says:
So many people say that Allah is the only god that everyone actually believes in.
Tania says:
im sure he does but did they have there own storys of saying how HE really did that?
JojoIsMe says:
No! They are not stories, it happened
JojoIsMe says:
Just like noas arc and mohameds venture
Tania says:
ehh i didnt mean it that way
Tania says:
i meant as have they told u them selfs..
Tania says:
that allah
Tania says:
helped
Tania says:
them
Tania says:
and
Tania says:
all tha
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, they have
JojoIsMe says:
Allah is a god everyone believes in, so is your god, everyone believes in your god.
JojoIsMe says:
So does that mean that there are 2 gods? Or that they are the same?
Tania says:
but your avoiding the question.. okay they have now tell me what they said?
JojoIsMe says:
They've told me about that Allah is showing them the right way to go! Because silly humans cant find their own way in life
JojoIsMe says:
same with your god
JojoIsMe says:
Your god is showing you the real ways of living
JojoIsMe says:
and that silly humans cant find their own way
Tania says:
eh but im saying when they had struggles or Some bad problem and they gave it all to allah to handle...did it work? did Allah really Help them in there OWN lifes?
JojoIsMe says:
Yes! Allah created the world in 6 days, and took a break the 7th day
JojoIsMe says:
He helped everyone
JojoIsMe says:
In the whole world
JojoIsMe says:
Because it's the only true religion! Just like yours, yours is the only true religion
Tania says:
lol... like here i told u How God helped me over come alot of things... but tell me 1 persons exeriance that they told u
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, one person told me that he was born to believe that Allah is the only true religion, and he is glad that his parents told him the true ways of life
JojoIsMe says:
He said he would be killing himself if he hadnt been believing in Allah
JojoIsMe says:
Because Allah is the true god, just like your god is the true god
JojoIsMe says:
And everyone believes in them both.
JojoIsMe says:
Even tho some people dont accept that
Tania says:
but see the only thing u tell me is...allaah is like your God ...and how everyone beleives in them and how some ppl dont accpet.. i get it.. but thats not what im asking from u
JojoIsMe says:
?
JojoIsMe says:
You believe in allah
JojoIsMe says:
You just dont know that you do that! You've accepted another god.
JojoIsMe says:
But you say that everyone else is believing in that god
JojoIsMe says:
Which means that everyone has accepted the wrong god
Tania says:
im asking the person u talked to ... does he have real life experiances where he prayed and somethng happend where he was in struggle and Allah helped etc....ur just not saying that all our saying is allah is lik God and there the same etc...
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, he asked for his router once, and his dad came in with that
Tania says:
how about spiritual.. earthly things dont mean much :]
JojoIsMe says:
well, Allah speaks to him in his prayers, always showing the right ways to go, making him live through the day
Tania says:
mm soo when your friend was in.........deep need of help for prayer of like depression or like....something did he get through it?
JojoIsMe says:
Yes! All thanks to Allah, the one true god that everyone believes in
Tania says:
lol mmm cool :]
Tania says:
well i mean i still beleive theres only God :
Tania says:
:]
JojoIsMe says:
Yea
Tania says:
cuz God said so !
JojoIsMe says:
Allah
JojoIsMe says:
Ya
Tania says:
nope
JojoIsMe says:
Allah said so
JojoIsMe says:
Allah said that there's only one god, and all also said that everye believes in him
JojoIsMe says:
everyone*
Tania says:
humm well u know if your trying ot change my mind like seriously.. like i said wont work..
Tania says:
soo wat are u implying here
JojoIsMe says:
well xD
JojoIsMe says:
Haha
JojoIsMe says:
Glad you asked
Tania says:
P
Tania says:
*
JojoIsMe says:
Im just telling you their side of how they think
JojoIsMe says:
I mean
Tania says:
w
Tania says:
JojoIsMe says:
They say that to you
Tania says:
g
JojoIsMe says:
?
Tania says:
srry..
Tania says:
my keyboard was going crazy
Tania says:
lol
JojoIsMe says:
Dont worry! God wanted it to go crazy
Tania says:
maybe :]
JojoIsMe says:
No use saying sorry, since we all know that's what god would have want
JojoIsMe says:
So lets all stop saying sorry
JojoIsMe says:
(:
Tania says:
lol
JojoIsMe says:
What i was trying to get accross is that Allah, the jewish god and the christian god is the same god. But was once split into 3 religions, and then, those religions were split into "brenches"
JojoIsMe says:
And in the future, they will probably get even more split
JojoIsMe says:
till eventually, religion will die
Tania says:
i c
JojoIsMe says:
religion is, to me and a lot of other sane people, a mokery of human inteligence
Tania says:
but see some ppl... make other Gods cuz they dont want to accept wat the Real God wants from us.. soo they make another god thats more accepting then the Real God..
Tania says:
soo it Goes on..
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, i know! We all know that Allah is the real god
JojoIsMe says:
So you made your own god
JojoIsMe says:
Imaginary god
Tania says:
like humm God is against....sex before marriage... then some person wil lbe like Well..........John... is a real God cuz he does the same thing as God but... he allows sex before marriage and ppl beleive in that
JojoIsMe says:
Oh! You're actually smart about religion?
This surly should show you that religion will die in the future. Because with all these things happening, there will eventually be so many different kinds that there is no more religion
Tania says:
im s ure there will still
Tania says:
be
Tania says:
:]
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, because as well all know, not having a mind of your own is a good thing
Tania says:
lol hum maybe :]
JojoIsMe says:
I think religion is a silly thing. It's cute how you all follow it so strictly tho.
JojoIsMe says:
I mean, if god told you to kill yourself, you would do that without question, because it's what god wants
Tania says:
lol well also u should be smart..
JojoIsMe says:
Who knows, maybe he wanted that because he wanted you to control heavens army with a golden PSP against satans army
Tania says:
murder is a sin..
JojoIsMe says:
Not if god says it to you (:
JojoIsMe says:
He can bend his own rules
Tania says:
well then its not God
Tania says:
nope
JojoIsMe says:
Yes it is
JojoIsMe says:
God can do that
JojoIsMe says:
(:
Tania says:
he stated them Promised..
Tania says:
and they cant ever be bended..
JojoIsMe says:
Are you trying to say that god cant do everything? ;O
Tania says:
see we THINK that cuz where sinful "Oh God can bend this rule for me"
Tania says:
NO he cant
Tania says:
he WONT.
Tania says:
Follow the rules
Tania says:
THATS IT
JojoIsMe says:
So you're saying that god isnt all powerful
Tania says:
if not well....ur not Getting any closer to God..
JojoIsMe says:
Huh
JojoIsMe says:
I always thought he was
Tania says:
yes he is....
JojoIsMe says:
No
JojoIsMe says:
You just said that he isnt
Tania says:
he wont Bend his own rules
JojoIsMe says:
But if he cant do that, that means he isnt all powerful
JojoIsMe says:
Right?
Tania says:
WELL we dont know God ...and if God wanted u ... he would take your soul without you even killing your self :]
JojoIsMe says:
But you still havnt told me
JojoIsMe says:
is god all powerful?
Tania says:
yes God is.. God controls everything
JojoIsMe says:
No
JojoIsMe says:
You said that he doesnt control his own rules
JojoIsMe says:
Which means that he doesnt control everything
JojoIsMe says:
Right?
Tania says:
lol ehh u didnt get me right...
JojoIsMe says:
?
Tania says:
or maybe i didnt say it right..
JojoIsMe says:
But if he cant control his own rules, that means he cant control everything
Tania says:
YES he does control his rules but its like stating... u need this much credits to make it to this college NO LESS.....
JojoIsMe says:
Huh?
Tania says:
some director wouldnt like bend a rule of sayin oh he has 1 credit smaller its okay... he can come in..
Tania says:
thats how God is.. YOU FOLLOW THESE RULES u COME to the kingdom of HEAVEN
Tania says:
..if u dont u go to hell
Tania says:
End of story..
Tania says:
THats it..
JojoIsMe says:
But that still means he doesnt control everything, making him not all powerful
Tania says:
i dont get wat your implying again... i just said he was ...well soo far God never bended a rule for anyone what makes u think.. hed wanna start now?
JojoIsMe says:
But if he cant bend the rules
JojoIsMe says:
That has to mean
JojoIsMe says:
That he cant control everything
JojoIsMe says:
because a rule, is something
JojoIsMe says:
And not being able to bend it, means that he cant control everything
Tania says:
ummm go ask him your self for him to bend a rule for u... maybe God doesnt want ot bend the rule.. yes he controls all rules but he wont bend them for u or me or any1..
JojoIsMe says:
But if he feels like he should bend a rule, but then, he cant, because he isnt all powerful
Tania says:
if he wanted to he could
Tania says:
... he can do anything
JojoIsMe says:
Oh, but you said that he couldnt bend the rules?
JojoIsMe says:
Right?
JojoIsMe says:
You said that a few mins ago o.o
Tania says:
well i said it wrong my bad..
JojoIsMe says:
How is it?
Tania says:
yes if he wanted to he could
JojoIsMe says:
So he can bend all rules?
JojoIsMe says:
(:
JojoIsMe says:
Ok
JojoIsMe says:
That clears up a lot of things
JojoIsMe says:
x
JojoIsMe says:
xD
JojoIsMe says:
That means that everything and anything can happen
JojoIsMe says:
Right?
Tania says:
Okay listen to this.... God made stricked rules cuz...anything out of his rules is a Sin... and He HATES sin...
Tania says:
soo he cant bend the rule cuz if he does hes letting some 1 sin"kindof" but NO he doesnt like KIND OF..
Tania says:
he says
Tania says:
DO THIS U COME WITH ME
Tania says:
U DONT DO IT..
Tania says:
U GO TO HELL
JojoIsMe says:
oh! So that means he isnt all powerful
JojoIsMe says:
):
JojoIsMe says:
ok
JojoIsMe says:
Because he should be able to control everything if he is all powerful right?
Tania says:
but he also allows evil for ppl to know how Powerful he is and how people should seek God more !! because if there was no evil u wouldnt know how Great and powerful God is right?.............also YES once again GOD IS ALL POWERFUL... :]
JojoIsMe says:
oh! So that means he can bend his rules however he likes?
Tania says:
but he doesnt... beacuse bending them means Letting the ppl sin...
JojoIsMe says:
He is it. Can he bend the rules and be all powerful, or is he not all powerful and cant bend his own rules
Tania says:
and he doesnt want that!
JojoIsMe says:
which means he cant, it's the same thing
JojoIsMe says:
Doesnt want because the outcome might lead to something you wouldnt like is the same as "you cant"
JojoIsMe says:
which means that he isnt all powerful
Tania says:
i dont see your point in all this..
Tania says:
ur just trying to blind your self
Tania says:
ive told u
Tania says:
everything
Tania says:
read it
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, read mine
JojoIsMe says:
I told you a similarity between "not being able to" and "cant"
JojoIsMe says:
It's the same thing
JojoIsMe says:
So it means that god cant bend the rules and isnt all powerful
Tania says:
and understand beause like i said.......God is all powerful and he dont want to bend his Rules... because if he does hes allowing ppl to sin.. and he doesnt LIKE sin...thats why he sent Jesus to die for our sins so through him we can be cleaned....and enter heavens...
JojoIsMe says:
well! Like i said!
He doesnt like sins, meaning that if he bends his rules, sins will occur, and he simply doesnt want that!
But since he cant do it because he's not able to because of the sins that will occur, that also means that he simply cant. Since he cant bend the rules, that means he is NOT all powerful
Tania says:
but also know... he allowed evil and sins to happen soo ppl will Go and follow the rules as they are because they wanna be clean and be with God
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, but that doesnt have anything to do with the fact that he isnt all powerful
JojoIsMe says:
He cant bend the rules
Tania says:
he doesnt WANT to bend them...
Tania says:
thats why he never did..
JojoIsMe says:
Yea, and because he doesnt want to, that means he cant
Tania says:
that doesnt mean he cant
Tania says:
LIEK for example ... i can have sex right now if i wanted..
Tania says:
but i DONT WANT TO
Tania says:
doenst mean i CANT
JojoIsMe says:
Yea
JojoIsMe says:
That means you cant
JojoIsMe says:
since you dont want to
Tania says:
but i can :]
Tania says:
i choose not to
JojoIsMe says:
But it's not the same situation
JojoIsMe says:
God cant bend the rules because that would make sinners occur, and god doesnt like sinners, and because he doesnt like sinners, he cant bend the rules. Making god not all powerful
Tania says:
see now its not the same situation :]
JojoIsMe says:
?
JojoIsMe says:
It never was
JojoIsMe says:
you cant compare your life to god
JojoIsMe says:
You should know that
Tania says:
See if God bend the rules.. how would it be any diff then...living here on earth.. with all these "so called christians"
JojoIsMe says:
Huh?
Tania says:
who show they are but then bend the rules them selfs and just do sin?
JojoIsMe says:
well, god should be able to do that. If he really wanted to
Tania says:
or if God bend rules wats the point of JESUS dying for us.. if God could just bend the rules for us?
JojoIsMe says:
well, god doesnt care about that, if god is all powerful, he doesnt care about that
Tania says:
well he doesnt care about bending rules for us..
JojoIsMe says:
I never said bending it for humans
Tania says:
he said who follows them...can Come with me and kingdom of heavens and ME as your tresure and be happy for eternity
Tania says:
:]
Tania says:
bending the rules for sin.. same thing wat do u need for God to bend the rules
Tania says:
humans with sin
Tania says:
ight?
Tania says:
why bend rules for just SIN.. i mean thats pain stupid right there...
JojoIsMe says:
well, if he cant bend the rules, that makes him not all powerful
JojoIsMe says:
Since making everyone sinful should be something he is able to do
JojoIsMe says:
But since he doesnt like sin at all, he really cant do it
JojoIsMe says:
Which means that he's not all powerful
Tania says:
no see God didnt make them sinful
Tania says:
Satan did
Tania says:
God just Allowed it to happen for ppl to see God as Greater then Sin..
JojoIsMe says:
But you've said a lot of times in this convo that god makes sin
Tania says:
and more better
JojoIsMe says:
o.o
Tania says:
ehh srry i confused u..
Tania says:
no God didnt ... he ALLOWED it.. Satan did sin...
JojoIsMe says:
Which means that god cant make sin, which means that since he cant make sin, he's not all powerful
JojoIsMe says:
There you go, god is not all powerful
Tania says:
let me ask u....whats your point in the end of this Whole Convo... that God isnt al powerful? well u try making the earth world... UMM trees grow a PLANT.. ummmmm air Breathing.. all the little cells in your body that work PERFECTLY... ummm how the planets move and dont HIT eachother at all
JojoIsMe says:
well, you cant seem to disprove that im right now tho (:
Im just waiting for you to make an answer such as the one you just made n.n
JojoIsMe says:
I never meant anything bad tho
JojoIsMe says:
x3
Tania says:
Tania says:
its fine
JojoIsMe says:
I know you believe that god is all powerful <3
JojoIsMe says:
n.n
Tania says:
mm well ill besure to ask my paster about our talk
Tania says:
and let him answer :]
JojoIsMe says:
xD
Tania says:
JojoIsMe says:
haha! I'd love to see the answer to that
Tania says:
ok
Tania says:
so tell me your question is.........
Tania says:
to all this convo..
JojoIsMe says:
well! Let him just read the convo! Because the convo is a good lenght to make him understand the question
JojoIsMe says:
A simple question wotn do it
JojoIsMe says:
wont*
JojoIsMe says:
if you want help to answer that, i'd say that you should let someone read that whole convo
Tania says:
ok sure
Tania says:
lol ok
Tania says:
well ill copy it all and send him it
JojoIsMe says:
(:
JojoIsMe says:
I dont want some "Because he simply is all powerful" answer tho! Because that doesnt count.
You already came up with evendence to disprove me and so forth, so coming with such an answer that is in no way grounded is cheating
JojoIsMe says:
xD
JojoIsMe says:
Just so you know
Tania says:
even tho i bet i said somehing wrong.. and me might even correct me
Tania says:
soo just letting u know
Tania says:
lol
Tania says:
grr i hate mac..
Tania says:
its like u cant copy the convo
JojoIsMe says:
):
JojoIsMe says:
I copied tho
JojoIsMe says:
n.n
Tania says:
weird..
JojoIsMe sends:
JojoIsMe says:
(:
Tania says:
ty
JojoIsMe says:
yw n.n
Transfer of "GodTalk.rtf" is complete.
Tania says:
was jjust about to ask
JojoIsMe says:
x3
Tania says:
ty :]
Tania says:
ok
Tania says:
well i sent him it
JojoIsMe says:
x3
Tania says:
and srry id love to talk more but i got Hwk to do
Tania says:
nnnd need to help mom cook
Tania says:
Tania says:
God bless bye bye"