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    Thread: Christians don't believe there's objective morality.
Post: RE: Christians don't believe there's objective mor...
(September 6, 2012 at 2:34 pm)genkaus Wrote: The point was that you were wrong. You said that science doesn't deal with "oughts", it deals with what is. Clearly, it does. Later on, you changed it fr...
 discordianpope Christianity 82 34793 September 6, 2012 at 3:50 pm
    Thread: Christians don't believe there's objective morality.
Post: RE: Christians don't believe there's objective mor...
Obviously political science can have roots in ethics. But not the other way around. I obviously did miss the point. Because it seems you weren't bloody well making one. Obviously science has no prob...
 discordianpope Christianity 82 34793 September 6, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    Thread: Christians don't believe there's objective morality.
Post: RE: Christians don't believe there's objective mor...
(September 6, 2012 at 10:16 am)genkaus Wrote: Are you sure about that? I see sciences dealing with "oughts" everyday. Economics deals with measures that ought to be taken t maximize productivity. Po...
 discordianpope Christianity 82 34793 September 6, 2012 at 12:51 pm
    Thread: Christians don't believe there's objective morality.
Post: RE: Christians don't believe there's objective mor...
(September 5, 2012 at 4:47 pm)genkaus Wrote: On the contrary, teleology seeks to apply a purpose and by extension an ought to all things. The goal strategies would work fine even outside the teleolo...
 discordianpope Christianity 82 34793 September 6, 2012 at 9:57 am
    Thread: Christians don't believe there's objective morality.
Post: RE: Christians don't believe there's objective mor...
Yeah, I know what the is ought problem is. Which is why I was confused when I thought you were saying there wasn't an is-ought distinction, but you seem to be admitting that there is one now, so no wo...
 discordianpope Christianity 82 34793 September 5, 2012 at 2:44 pm
    Thread: Christians don't believe there's objective morality.
Post: RE: Christians don't believe there's objective mor...
I don't understand what you mean? The is-ought distinction is a distinction. Between facts and values. Science tells us what is, not what ought to be, and it can't do so. The idea of grounding it in b...
 discordianpope Christianity 82 34793 September 5, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    Thread: I must read The Bible for school!
Post: RE: I must read The Bible for school!
Just treat it like a novel man. There is some good stuff in there if you take it as a work of fiction, or like you would read greek mythology. Just remember to jump all the "so and so begat so and so ...
 discordianpope Christianity 66 30763 September 5, 2012 at 12:43 pm
    Thread: Only evil people don't believe in Christ per Bible.
Post: RE: Only evil people don't believe in Christ per B...
(September 4, 2012 at 4:17 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Joh 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Joh 3:18 Whoever ...
 discordianpope Christianity 57 21812 September 5, 2012 at 12:38 pm
    Thread: Christians don't believe there's objective morality.
Post: RE: Christians don't believe there's objective mor...
(September 5, 2012 at 11:52 am)genkaus Wrote: (September 5, 2012 at 11:45 am)discordianpope Wrote: What's wrong with 6 and 7? They seem to be obviously true to me. Most of humanity believes in obj...
 discordianpope Christianity 82 34793 September 5, 2012 at 12:33 pm
    Thread: Christians don't believe there's objective morality.
Post: RE: Christians don't believe there's objective mor...
(September 5, 2012 at 4:33 am)genkaus Wrote: So close. Except for 6 and 7. What's wrong with 6 and 7? They seem to be obviously true to me.
 discordianpope Christianity 82 34793 September 5, 2012 at 11:45 am
    Thread: The Religious and the fascination with the illuminati and a NWO
Post: RE: The Religious and the fascination with the ill...
It's all a load of bullshit, in my opinion. Why would the most wealthy and powerful people in the world need a conspiracy to guide the policies of the governments of the world - it all already happens...
 discordianpope Religion 17 5312 September 5, 2012 at 11:17 am
    Thread: Where do atheists get their morality from?
Post: RE: Where do atheists get their morality from?
(August 31, 2012 at 11:20 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I'm arguing from a purely philosophical position, one where objective moral values don't exist. This is the default position of atheism from w...
 discordianpope Atheism 463 248556 September 5, 2012 at 11:07 am
    Thread: Thoughts and questions from God Delusion
Post: RE: Thoughts and questions from God Delusion
(September 5, 2012 at 8:45 am)greneknight Wrote: (September 5, 2012 at 8:33 am)Faith No More Wrote: You should start selling yourself as the world's first atheist Christian. Atheist means lack of...
 discordianpope Atheism 41 21384 September 5, 2012 at 9:56 am
    Thread: So...guess I'm the new guy
Post: RE: So...guess I'm the new guy
(September 5, 2012 at 9:05 am)Napoléon Wrote: (September 5, 2012 at 9:00 am)discordianpope Wrote: Vinny isn't an idiot. You haven't been here very long have you? No, I guess not. But I havn't seen...
 discordianpope Introductions 286 118052 September 5, 2012 at 9:18 am
    Thread: So...guess I'm the new guy
Post: RE: So...guess I'm the new guy
Vinny isn't an idiot. He is raising legitimate questions that aren't answered by talking about having any number of chestnuts (how are we ever gonna prove the mathematical concept of infinity with che...
 discordianpope Introductions 286 118052 September 5, 2012 at 9:00 am
    Thread: So...guess I'm the new guy
Post: RE: So...guess I'm the new guy
(September 4, 2012 at 8:48 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: (September 4, 2012 at 7:56 pm)discordianpope Wrote: when you take two chestnuts and describe them as two chestnuts you have already started...
 discordianpope Introductions 286 118052 September 5, 2012 at 8:20 am
    Thread: So...guess I'm the new guy
Post: RE: So...guess I'm the new guy
(September 4, 2012 at 7:59 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (September 4, 2012 at 7:56 pm)discordianpope Wrote: when you take two chestnuts and describe them as two chestnuts you have already started doing the ma...
 discordianpope Introductions 286 118052 September 4, 2012 at 8:32 pm
    Thread: So...guess I'm the new guy
Post: RE: So...guess I'm the new guy
when you take two chestnuts and describe them as two chestnuts you have already started doing the math though. You have identified a set - a mathematical object - and assigned a cardinality to the set...
 discordianpope Introductions 286 118052 September 4, 2012 at 7:56 pm
    Thread: So...guess I'm the new guy
Post: RE: So...guess I'm the new guy
Vinny is right about the chestnuts. You have to already have a grasp of mathematics in order to do mathematical operations, even with physical objects. It doesn't mean that mathematics as a whole can'...
 discordianpope Introductions 286 118052 September 4, 2012 at 6:58 pm
    Thread: So...guess I'm the new guy
Post: RE: So...guess I'm the new guy
I agree that you can't empirically prove the existance of mathematical objects. Mathematical objects (numbers, sets etc.) are not physical objects. The ontological status of such things is pretty tric...
 discordianpope Introductions 286 118052 September 4, 2012 at 6:30 pm