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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 17, 2012 at 5:57 pm
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To stop what, and what part of the quoted post is this meant to address?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 17, 2012 at 6:07 pm
(April 17, 2012 at 5:35 pm)C Rod Wrote: He pays for his crimes here, if not, and is truly sorry and is able to have a last second true repentance then it is up to God to pass judgement.
Exactly. There is a get-out-of-jail-free card where he does not have to pay for his crimes. That idea is why your religion disgusts me.
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 17, 2012 at 6:39 pm
The unfixable.
What's bad about a get out of jail free card?
What's wrong with believing the last second and acknowledging God while on earth? I think its worth something and certainly if its true. Is too much mercy a bad thing?
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 17, 2012 at 6:46 pm
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So scapegoating somehow stops you from doing the "unfixable" or just prevents you from being punished for it? Bullshit, on both counts.
You tell me what's bad about that. How's about we open all the prison gates right now?
Acknowledging what? There's nothing to acknowledge. We're talking about your beliefs and shitty morality (the only demonstrable part of this whole pathetic conversation).
Is the crux of your thought process really "But wouldn't you like to get away with it!"? Wishful thinking extending over shitty behavior in service of magic? No thanks, I'll pass.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 17, 2012 at 7:04 pm
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(April 17, 2012 at 6:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: So scapegoating somehow stops you from doing the "unfixable" or just prevents you from being punished for it? Bullshit, on both counts.
You tell me what's bad about that. How's about we open all the prison gates right now?
Acknowledging what? There's nothing to acknowledge. We're talking about your beliefs and shitty morality (the only demonstrable part of this whole pathetic conversation).
Is the crux of your thought process really "But wouldn't you like to get away with it!"? Wishful thinking extending over shitty behavior in service of magic? No thanks, I'll pass.
That "somehow" is what you don't understand.
All of the criminals don't deserve a second chance or are incapable of change?
Your only getting away with it if you believe you can accept change without actually changing, its not truth.
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 17, 2012 at 7:05 pm
(This post was last modified: April 17, 2012 at 7:10 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Help me understand, explain how the magic works. I'll eat fucking crow if you can. You're peddling bullshit. Meanwhile scapegoating actually exists, is exactly what you're hoping to do, and pretty much cements one's role in the douche hall of fame.
I don't know, do they, are you opening those gates yet or are you trying to sell me bullshit that you wouldn't buy?
No, you're "getting away with it" when you get away with it, even if you change. Whatever you may go on to be or do or regret has no effect on what you have already done. But maybe, just maybe, you can un-murder, un-rape, un-steal, un-lie etc? Garbage, again.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 17, 2012 at 7:18 pm
(April 17, 2012 at 6:39 pm)C Rod Wrote: The unfixable.
What's bad about a get out of jail free card?
What's wrong with believing the last second and acknowledging God while on earth? I think its worth something and certainly if its true. Is too much mercy a bad thing?
The same thing that's wrong with the judge giving his son a get-out-of-jail-free card. Its the same moral principle. Justice requires you to pay for your crimes in accordance with those crimes. Your god subverts the concept of justice by either granting undeserved mercy or by dishing out punishment without regard for the crime. Therefore, he is an unjust and an immoral entity.
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 17, 2012 at 7:24 pm
(April 17, 2012 at 7:18 pm)genkaus Wrote: Therefore, he is an unjust and an immoral entity.
Which, let's be fair, wouldn't really matter one bit if it weren't for all of the douchebags prancing around claiming that their fairy tale overlord is some kind of standard in the subject. It's not like any of this actually happens, just a bunch of stories you tell children.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 17, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I try to end this along time ago. "Were talking about two different things". You dont care for the religion and thats what im proposing, other than that, i would be peddling your reality which would be, well...
I dont have the power to determine which ones have change.
I think if you change your not the same person who did it in the first place, it would seem because of change. You cant undo that stuff but weren't not trying, nobody can but what we can do(an actual demonstrable thing) is change.
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 17, 2012 at 7:26 pm
(This post was last modified: April 17, 2012 at 7:33 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
You have the power to consider the morality you're championing honestly, without giving it a special pass just because you like ghost stories, aren't you?
If nobody can undo anything, whats the point of scapegoating and blood magic? All forgiveness requires is a thought. "I forgive you".
(You can end this conversation anytime you like, just stop responding, or tell me that you don't actually have any answers...then I'll stop asking questions, but I'll be a little disappointed. Here I am asking questions about jesus, I thought this was the path to salvation, Im always encouraged to ask questions about jesus by the faithful, they say they have answers....)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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