(October 13, 2015 at 1:26 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:(October 13, 2015 at 1:08 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Except that, according to their own mythology, God in Jesus Form™ was perfectly willing to provide evidence to skeptics like Thomas and the apostles, after resurrection.
It's just us regular schlubs (and everyone else since Jesus vanished into orbit) who have to rely on the say-so of those apostles that they saw what they saw; God can't bother to provide proof to the rest of us.
God does provide proof to many i dont base my belief on anything that any apostle says . not everyone who believes in God believes in the teachings from apostles or any other religious person . didnt you say that your girlfriend believes in God ? why does she believe ?
I didn't mean you, Jenny. Those who follow the Jesus mythology. Including my fiancee.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
