RE: What are the evidence for no god?
October 18, 2015 at 7:08 am
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2015 at 7:11 am by TheRocketSurgeon.)
Good grief, I'm reading that ICR crap-paper... so many of the conclusions they draw from the papers they cite are bafflingly stupid, or based on what I can only conclude are willful lies about how the conclusions are to be drawn. For instance,
The volume of the brain, as I explained before, is not as relevant as the fact that the volume is in an entirely-different direction, with Neandertals "missing" the portion of our prefrontal cortex, found in our bulging neotenous foreheads, and having an extension at the rear of the skull, where our occipital bun is a mere bulb. But that has nothing to do with the conclusion they reached, that somehow brain volume should "support views that argue for an evolutionary expansion of Hominid brains". See the comparison of cross-sections and appearance, here:
Neandertals split off from our African ancestors (while we remained behind for another 350,000+ years) to colonize Europe and central Asia. The ancestor from whom they diverged is even older, as Homo heidelbergensis originated between 800,000 and 1,300,000 years ago in Africa, with one group leaving to colonize Eurasia perhaps 400,000 years ago, while we remained behind, and developed into Homo sapiens roughly 130,000 years ago, though we didn't successfully follow the ancestors of the Neandertals out of Africa until about 60,000 years ago. By 42,000 years ago, we met the Neandertals in Europe, though we have evidence of interbreeding beginning to occur in Israel as far back as 55,000 years ago.
Do you see why I say it is dishonest to say that skull size comparisons means what they say it means? They're trying to pretend that scientists claim that Neandertals are lower-level humans, rather than cousins, and that if evolution is true we should expect humans to have the biggest brains. None of that is claimed by science. The ICR quite literally exists for the purpose of "muddying the waters", so to speak, and convincing people that science is confused and/or wrong, because they see that as a "win" for Biblical literalist Christianity (aka Creationism). They are highly effective in propagandizing the layperson, and personally I consider them to be evil. If you don't believe me that they are trying to muddy the waters for their own purpose, read it in their own words in "The Wedge Document", preserved for us by the National Center for Science Education:
http://ncse.com/creationism/general/wedge-document
The ICR Wrote:Although there is no direct correlation between brain size and intelligence, Neanderthal brain volume certainly does not support views that argue for an evolutionary expansion of "Hominid" brains.
The volume of the brain, as I explained before, is not as relevant as the fact that the volume is in an entirely-different direction, with Neandertals "missing" the portion of our prefrontal cortex, found in our bulging neotenous foreheads, and having an extension at the rear of the skull, where our occipital bun is a mere bulb. But that has nothing to do with the conclusion they reached, that somehow brain volume should "support views that argue for an evolutionary expansion of Hominid brains". See the comparison of cross-sections and appearance, here:
Neandertals split off from our African ancestors (while we remained behind for another 350,000+ years) to colonize Europe and central Asia. The ancestor from whom they diverged is even older, as Homo heidelbergensis originated between 800,000 and 1,300,000 years ago in Africa, with one group leaving to colonize Eurasia perhaps 400,000 years ago, while we remained behind, and developed into Homo sapiens roughly 130,000 years ago, though we didn't successfully follow the ancestors of the Neandertals out of Africa until about 60,000 years ago. By 42,000 years ago, we met the Neandertals in Europe, though we have evidence of interbreeding beginning to occur in Israel as far back as 55,000 years ago.
Do you see why I say it is dishonest to say that skull size comparisons means what they say it means? They're trying to pretend that scientists claim that Neandertals are lower-level humans, rather than cousins, and that if evolution is true we should expect humans to have the biggest brains. None of that is claimed by science. The ICR quite literally exists for the purpose of "muddying the waters", so to speak, and convincing people that science is confused and/or wrong, because they see that as a "win" for Biblical literalist Christianity (aka Creationism). They are highly effective in propagandizing the layperson, and personally I consider them to be evil. If you don't believe me that they are trying to muddy the waters for their own purpose, read it in their own words in "The Wedge Document", preserved for us by the National Center for Science Education:
http://ncse.com/creationism/general/wedge-document
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.