(October 20, 2015 at 11:27 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(October 20, 2015 at 11:08 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It doesn't matter what you are talking about, your argument assumes if there is proof of God or exactly what type of God he is, humanity would all believe in that God and there would be no Atheists. But for such structure of an argument to be true, humanity needs to be sincere towards proofs that they are honest enough to accept them when presented with such proofs. The fact that humanity follows false religions even though there is proofs many of them are false, suggests, this is not the case. So your argument would be special pleading regardless if you are talking about religions or not.
What special pleading are you talking about? I have a sneaking feeling you don't know what the term means.
Ok, let's take this slowly. The question was asked:
(October 20, 2015 at 10:09 pm)Blondie Wrote: Is it that there is just simply know proof or you just don't know?
To which I responded:
(October 20, 2015 at 10:17 pm)Stimbo Wrote: If there was proof, there would be no atheists. It's not our fault that what we're offered, again and again, isn't the 'proof' it's purported to be. This is all without going into the difference between proof and evidence, of course.
Remember that proof is not the same as evidence, even in a non-mathematical sense; prove your god exists and I will no longer be an atheist, since my position at present is one of witholding belief in such things until sufficient compelling evidence is presented. I made the base assumption that this would hold true for atheists in general, given our nature as rationalists (to varying degrees).
That's it. That is the whole of my 'argument'. Have your pet god be proven, atheism goes away.
Where is the special pleading?
Atheism will go away, eventually. However, your special pleading is that Atheists are the only rational ones who accept proofs while other humans it doesn't matter if they do or not. You have to show why Atheists hold this unique status as sincere to the truth that other humans don't. Otherwise, it is special pleading.