(October 20, 2015 at 12:58 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote:

(October 20, 2015 at 12:47 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: well, houseofcantor, at least I am not so evidently atheist! O_O

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The christian God states that if you do not believe in him, you go to hell. It may not say hell fire, though....

citations please...

Isn't asking JBK for citations kind like asking a fish if you can borrow it's bicycle?

(October 20, 2015 at 9:52 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(October 20, 2015 at 9:42 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I think Atheists are in double think. They believe in God and disbelieve in him at the same time, much like they believe they are souls but deny it, they act as if they are souls and act as if they are not.

Then what you think is wrong; plain and simple.

You know what, I see it aside from these issues. I know for certain Christians are in double think with regards to God's Unity, they believe he is pure existence and pure unity, and at the same time speak of trinity and believe in that. The same is true of many Sunnis. They are very well believe that Ali is the rightful successor, but instead of submitting, they oppose the people of submission to God's path.

I don't know why humans are like this. They don't want people to acknowledge the path, the path towards who, and the name/face of the Creator, by which he entrusts to whom he pleases and designates as the pivotal foundation of it to who he pleases, and don't want people to acknowledge the reasoning that points to the source of value, praise, and greatness.

And worse are those who act as if all parables are none-sense and speak of nothing, like the light/face of God/Name of God. These people very well understand these parables but act as if they have no clue, thereby convincing themselves they are ignorant and hence becoming ignorant through denial of knowledge. Of course, I don't claim they fully understand them, but they scent them enough to know it's possibly speaking truth, yet they deafen their ears, and say "what does God mean by such parables?".

(October 20, 2015 at 9:57 pm)dyresand Wrote: What you gotta do is this live over national and world wide television in HD and HD streaming in a stadium with translators in front of hundreds of people and say i don't believe in god because of the lack of evidence for a god then drop the mic.

But what if...

I think what the question really was is why you guys are atheists because no one is born with automatic knowledge or a particular set of beliefs. A person of faith does wonder what the decision is based on. Kinda like a psychology question on upbringing to reasoning. Is it that there is just simply know proof or you just don't know? Sometimes people of a particular faith do wonder about why the rejection thereof and I think that is why you guys get alot of these types of questions because of the curiosity of no belief in something more powerful than the human race. I have honestly wondered that myself throughout my life. I just never really had a chance to ask a true atheist those questions. Before I just ran into this site, I did not know that there was a difference in the atheist views like agnostic versus the other. I thought all atheists believe in no God or gods at all which could be over-generalizing the veiw. I also know that people sometimes troll the site to push religion down a person's own throat or on a group of people. That is the last thing anyone wants from another individual. It can also be a touchy subject for some people.

(October 20, 2015 at 4:58 pm)Stimbo Wrote: He doesn't exist.

Well, he does, sort of. He's actually an FBI agent posing as a Japanese woman who's pretending to be a English gentleman, trying to find evidence that theists exist outside America and the Middle East.

Now, I've gone and blown his cover so I'm gonna have to room up with Snowden.

(October 20, 2015 at 9:08 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(October 20, 2015 at 9:03 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: well atheists there is your proof that God exists - finally you have it

That's  not proof

Sure it is. Proof of belief in gawd. To bad it doesn't prove anything else.

(October 20, 2015 at 3:58 pm)LastPoet Wrote: This guy is like the offspring from Drich and Little Rik.

That, and a quarter pound of hash and six sheets of blotter acid.

(October 20, 2015 at 9:42 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I think Atheists are in double think. They believe in God and disbelieve in him at the same time, much like they believe they are souls but deny it, they act as if they are souls and act as if they are not.

It's which part of the self they will believe, the uncleanness which doubts God or the pure blessed part that is attached to God, is a trial.

With sincere reflection, everything becomes easy.

There is many evidence and arguments for God as well, but if a soul doesn't want to believe in God, no matter what proofs are presented it won't submit and no matter how deep penetrating the reminder of the light takes place in the soul, it takes a truthful submitting heart to accept their Lord and Master.

"Whoever believes in God, guides his heart aright" - Quran.

"And from humans are those who say they believe in God and the last day, and they are not believers" -Quran

Thanks for telling us what we think and believe.

Get bent.

(October 20, 2015 at 10:09 pm)Blondie Wrote: Is it that there is just simply know proof or you just don't know?

If there was proof, there would be no atheists. It's not our fault that what we're offered, again and again, isn't the 'proof' it's purported to be. This is all without going into the difference between proof and evidence, of course.

(October 20, 2015 at 10:17 pm)Stimbo Wrote: If there was proof, there would be no atheists. It's not our fault that what we're offered, again and again, isn't the 'proof' it's purported to be. This is all without going into the difference between proof and evidence, of course.

A person can argue if there was proof x religion was wrong, no people would follow x religion. Obviously that you acknowledge is false. Therefore your argument would have to be special pleading.